As far as I remember Plat funny report of some time ago was more accurate.

Rufus n.1 for sure based on my experience

Edited 8/10/2021 13:49:29

The thing I find most fascinating every time this debate comes about is the whole side of the debate that questions how much weight should be given to contemporary dominance or pure skill...
It's like the whole Pele/Maradona vs Ronaldo/Messi idea, or MJ vs LeBron.
Obviously it's a little different with Warzone, which has only been around for a decade or two, but from what it sounds like we have the same issue - when deciding who the all-time greats are, we can't decide between the pioneers of strategies who dominated in their era, or the superstars who are showcasing their brilliance today in an arguably much more competitive arena. Add into this problem the fact that skill is subjective, and people are often including their opinions on things such as personal experience against these players as well as their on-paper performances, and it makes for a very subjective debate. That said, I would find it very interesting, if we were to do an analysis of all the lists people have come up with over the years to find which names occur most frequently.

More like Wilt Chamberlain vs MJ or Lebron. Pretty universally accepted that MJ is the GOAT of this era and probably of all time. But basketball was a very different sport half a century ago.

I think tacky is the best

More like Wilt Chamberlain vs MJ or Lebron. Pretty universally accepted that MJ is the GOAT of this era and probably of all time.

That's true about Wilt, although I disagree that it's universally accepted that MJ is the GOAT; he certainly was and largely still is, but that's partly a result of a lot of marketing, and a lot of the people I know who are into basketball are now starting to say they think LeBron is the GOAT.
But anyway, that's slightly beside the point; this being my main point:

But basketball was a very different sport half a century ago.

Warzone now is (apparently) very different to what it used to be, and there's always controversy in deciding how much weight to give to the dominators of the old era or the top competitors of the current age.

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The difference between WZ and basketball is that is obviously impossible for players from bygone eras to play against modern players, since it’s a physical sport and they’re now too old. With WZ there’s nothing stopping old players from coming back and competing, and occasionally they do. They almost always fail to reach the success they had before. There are recent examples - dead piggy was referenced earlier - but this has been the case forever. Even in the earliest times the first dominant player The Impaller returned after a long hiatus and couldn’t compete with the new guard.

I also remember a while back a few people were analyzing some games by the winner of an early season (I believe it was dead piggy on BIV) and people were amazed by the mistakes made by a player who was conceivably the best player ever at that point.

All this is to say that there is a lot of evidence that the early champions were nowhere near as good as the top tier of players now.

Am I top 20?

yes

> People always look back on players like sze much better than they were. You put deadpiggy 7th when he came back and was shite on the MDL, he couldn’t compete against the sweats of AI and Rufus.

The tops players of today would walk all over them imo.



I went 5-0 vs Piggy when he came back. That's certainly not saying that I belong here. I absolutely do not, but yeah, if someone like me can stomp him, he's not anywhere near 7th.

Edited 8/30/2021 04:47:49

This is a list for GOAT(Greatest of all times) @Nauz. So current ranking and skills dont matter. Deadpiggy was one of the best in his era, so ofc he would be a top GOAT. Its like saying that since Roger Federer doesnt play well these days and is beaten by worst players; so he wouldnt be a GOAT in tennis which is bs

Edited 8/30/2021 04:49:58

@arrow. Tennis is a sport, you need to be physically fit for that, so when Federer starts playing worse because of his age, that indeed doesn't mean he has been one of the best or the best. Warzone is not a sport, there are nu physical conditions keeping you from getting better. Therefore I think your comparison is bs and I agree with Nauz that if he beats dead piggy 5-0 he doesn't belong in top 20.

> People always look back on players like sze much better than they were. You put deadpiggy 7th when he came back and was shite on the MDL, he couldn’t compete against the sweats of AI and Rufus.

Or maybe he just didn't give a shit and wanted to have a bit of fun? Not everyone spends every second of the last decade being a competive warlight player you know? Perhaps time to get a life?

Pulsey continues on level 56.

pulsey has a great point, get outside and try having fun

> Or maybe he just didn't give a shit and wanted to have a bit of fun?

Considering he literally ragequit and said he didn't enjoy the game because he was bad, yeah, I don't think that's it.

> Not everyone spends every second of the last decade being a competive warlight player you know?

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Yeah, I'm super active right now. Totally have been for a whole decade too. Fucking retard.

I'd ask if you had nothing better to do than chase me around like a scorned ex-girlfriend, but I know the answer already; you don't.

Edited 8/30/2021 12:33:40

dead piggy had an unreal understanding of the game back when no one had it. now lots of ppl understand the game. should piggy's mastery be valued more because there were less masters back then? or should we celebrate the success of the new wave, to have mastered warzone to even greater levels than before


it isnt good to talk down the GOATs of the website, ppl who were revered and honestly inspired a lot of other players to go competitive. we should respect what they did for us, and just continue to build onto it. i was tutored by many of the "GOAT"s, the community here is really helpful.

tl;dr sure dead piggy would be smacked around today but it would be good to respect all the hard work he did in the past to master the game in a way few could (at the time)

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Edited 8/30/2021 12:39:34

hm, I feel like nobody considers motivation or being rusty after a long break, when it comes to old player comebacks. I mean dead piggy was away from WL for almost six years! Whatever great understanding of the game he must have had, playing it a lot on daily basis for a few years, must have diminished, even without comparing it to the ever-growing overall skill of the top. What does it say about the top performance he had had back in the day?