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True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:02:52


myhandisonfire 
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Ah come on Silver, read a book or two.
I come to believe that you know much less than you believe you do. Perhaps your arrogance is preventing you from noticing.

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scientific fact.


Get out of here. Haha. :D


Yes, scientific fact.
Here something you are aware of (since you know all the Wikipedia articles already), I am going to link them to you, because I am not going to go into detail about the most basic of facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

When I write colonialism , I mean colonialism. I don`t mean slavery. Had I wanted to say slavery I would have wrote slavery.

The moral justification for colonialism was racial superiority, that includes slavery if you so wish. It was a popular belief that the European nations were superior to the African. Despite their national differences the Europeans coincided when it came to the racial inferiority of the African people.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:03:24

Elroi{IL}
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Grammatically, you're right, but realized that he still considered racist.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:08:25

Silver 
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No, there was no moral justification.
If there were one it wouldn't be about race it would be about economy and perhaps just racing to flag a piece of land before the neighbours do it.

Also what you linked can be more or less summed up as this:
Post war winner propaganda. Prove me wrong.

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About 10,000 Japanese nationals (mostly diplomats and military officials) residing in Germany were given "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges than any other "non-Aryan" ethnonational group.

So much for your link. It was all propaganda, from both sides. It wasn't about race it was about nationality. "Aryan" was basically code word for german and had nothing to do with genetics.
Nazi policy stressed the superiority of the Nordic race, a sub-section of the white European population defined by the measurement of the size and proportions of the human body models of racial difference.[40] From 1940 the Nazis in General Government(occupied Poland) divided the population into different groups.[41] Each group had different rights, food rations, allowed strips in the cities, separated residential areas, special schooling systems, public transportation and restricted restaurants. Later adapted in all Nazi-occupied countries by 1942, the Germanization program used the racial caste system of reserving certain rights to one group and barred privileges to another. Ethnic Poles were believed by Hitler to be "biologically inferior race" that could never be educated or elevated through Germanization[42] During the occupation of Poland, the Nazis kept an eye out for children with Nordic racial characteristics, those among them found to be classified as "racially valuable" were sent from here to the German Reich for adoption and to be raised as Germans, those who failed the tests would be used as slaves or murdered in medical experiments.[43]

That's even more BS.
You don't go around making japanese "aryan" and at the same time keep an eye out for great nordic racial characteristics. Hitler himself had probably none.
As I said it was war propaganda from both sides.

Edited 9/22/2014 13:12:58
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:12:21

Elroi{IL}
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Do not you think he should suck up to the Japanese that they fought in the United States?
As a member of Stalin and then he attacked him Bbbrosh operation.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:16:33

Silver 
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They were allied?

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Germanization also affected the Sorbs, the minority Slav community living in Saxony and Brandenburg, whose Slavic culture and language was suppressed to absorb them into German identity.

Just to show you how it was done.
Slavs have bad genetics and are sub human!
Lets absorb those slavs over there!

It's all hypocritical BS for me and all about nationality and not race.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:16:47


myhandisonfire 
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About 10,000 Japanese nationals (mostly diplomats and military officials) residing in Germany were given "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges than any other "non-Aryan" ethnonational group.


Are you really that closedminded? Cant you see your the flaws in your logic?
Giving someone "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges must imply that you have a racist society that has multiple levels of citizenship based on ethnicity or race.

As for your point that other interests coincided with, lead to, or went contrary to the racist Agenda of Nazi germany, Colonialism or nowadays racist phenomenons, yes.
Without doubt. I never disputed that, nor would I. But that still means that racism is a reality.

So I will log out of this nonsense, since I get not paid for clarifying your wrong conclusions.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:17:38

Elroi{IL}
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This is not true, many Jews were blond, I have relatives blond.
It was the look that was by the descendants of the German nation.
For example, according to their filter had to kill Hitler.
Obviously Japan was Germany's ally

Edited 9/22/2014 13:18:55
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:18:15


AbsolutelyEthan 
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ok, this is getting dumb. neither of you think he was a good person, so can we all just go to sleep now?
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:21:13

Silver 
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Then they weren't jews, or were only by religion.
Jews by definition descent from the hebrews do they not?

There's jew ethniticy and then there's the religion.

Giving someone "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges must imply that you have a racist society that has multiple levels of citizenship based on ethnicity or race.

No it doesn't have to imply that.
Different levels of citizenship doesn't mean racism by default. Again you call everything you see racist.

Edited 9/22/2014 13:22:46
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:22:18

Elroi{IL}
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Most of the Jews in Germany were atheists and assimilated with the German company
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:24:16

Silver 
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So they weren't jews at all? :D

You said ealier that they were blonde and descended from the German nation.
And now you say they weren't even jewish by religion either.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:26:42

Elroi{IL}
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I'm not saying that, most of the Jews in Germany of the period of the World Wars were married if German. My family specific, not

Edited 9/22/2014 13:29:18
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:31:11

Silver 
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This was fun. :P
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:31:51

Elroi{IL}
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Fun to argue
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:36:06

Silver 
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It is isn't it? :P

I didn't want to disrespect anyone or anyones beliefs I just found it annoying how you called him a racist.
Elroi for you to know, my grandfather was jewish and had been born when the Nazis claimed Estonia to be judenfrei back in 1943. Still I'm trying to look it beyond that as a mere racial matter.

Edited 9/22/2014 13:37:17
True Story:: 9/22/2014 14:45:44


slammy 
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silver you have just been disqualified from the slammy awards for best troll. i think i read in wikipedia that a troll has to be cognizant of their idiocy, their arguments purposefully flawed in their attempt to bait and annoy. Above all, a good troll is self-aware.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 14:47:28


MysteryManBall
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Maybe hitler is a famous alt name
True Story:: 9/22/2014 17:22:36


{rp} GeneralGror
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Wait, so someone in real life was named after http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2522501400 and is a racist?
True Story:: 9/22/2014 17:29:09


MysteryManBall
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Yrah , how is that even racist

well hitler was a bad person , but ba dpeople arent racist
True Story:: 9/22/2014 18:17:55


Incaman
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Hahaha, did you just had a 3 page discussion on whether Hitler was racist ?!? :D.

Racism is the very backbone of Nazism.

But you surely know that Silver and are just trolling right?

Although the definition of races in Humanity changed tryout history and most scientists now don't recognize races (We are considered: Species - Homo sapiens, and subspecies - Homo sapiens sapiens). Nazis considered Jews a separate race and they considered them selves a separate race descended from the mythical Aryan race, ( which didn't really existed and was the reason of numerous failed expeditions to prove the same ) superior to all other races, hence "Master Race".

Edited 9/22/2014 18:18:49
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