Do you know the difference between race and ethnicity?
I'm starting to think you don't. Of course it's easy to cry racism at everything if you pretend to not know or actually don't know the difference.

I'm sorry but I'm done. You can't be reasoned with.

My point was that the guys naming themselves after Hitler are just desperate for attention, any kind of attention.

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It's the same thing only in the United States ...

While there is a difference between race and ethnicity, you fail to see that racial supremacism is per definition racism. It is just a variant or subgroup of racism.

Why is that so difficult to accept?

Maybe you need the definitions explained so you can see it for yourself.

Racism : Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.

Supremacism: Supremacism is the belief that a particular age, race, species, ethnic group, religion, gender, sexual orientation, class, belief system or culture is superior to others and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control or rule those who do not.

So what is different for example destroyed my grandmother (German Jewish) home on Kristallnacht ... this is not racism?

Thanks for proving my point Myhand. :)
Or don't you see what you just did?
You just confirmed Hitler to be a German supremacist. And by your own definition given he can't be a racist.

based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities

I know you'll start arguing that part so let me explain before you do.
Being german isn't a trait, ability or a quality.
There are all types of germans, not all have blonde hair and blue eyes, they didn't die because of that.
German isn't a race.

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Excerpt from Wikipedia:

While race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.

Thanks for reading Silver. I made the critical parts for you bold.

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It is clear that the German race ... the descendants of Germanic tribes.
Scandinavian, German and Austrian British Dutch (part of the German race

Yeah I am aware of that WIKIPEDIA article.
I also am aware that I'm just nit picking the whole subject and that the popular view is that Hitler was a racist. But the popular view isn't always correct. History is written by the winners or however the saying goes.
But I really believe there's a difference, as I said earlier the line is blurry but in my opinion it's there and everyone are way too eager to label everything racist by default.

Also Elroi, my mistake, you can't participate because you're a jew like I said earlier. You can't participate becaue you're stupid. There. Fixed.

Also Myhand, germans aren't an ethnicity, they're a nation. Old germanic tribes could be called an ethnicity of their own, but the modern german people aren't ethnic.
Surely you know the difference between a nationality and an ethinicity?
The fact that you jumped on my ethnicity comment earlier shows you're clutching straws just to prove me wrong. So much hate in you.


Thanks for reading Myhand, I made the critical parts for you bold.

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What to do with hate? There is a German breed as there race Slav and Celtic race like that ... right is split into several states.
Not interest me and cut short (not a reliable source) It racist prejudices about other races. All Nazi doctrine is based on it. So to confuse the brain is a racist, It a fact.
Safe at = 100% which is racist but bullshit it national?
Is the only national But for his race should rule the world ....

NO!
Yet again.
Nazism is based on supremacy, not racism.

Racial superiority. I do not care they think they are the superior race ... What bothers me whom they should be the only race in the world.
So obviously it's racism ... and if you have ever been a racist incident is not a racist mouth, but is a superior race right?

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Not racial, germanic supremacy.
Again germans aren't a race of their own. They're not even an ethnicity, they're a nationality.

Nazism started as a pan-nationalist political movement, their goal was to get back their old territories they had lost. Pan-Germanism etc.

EDIT:
For crying out loud stop mixing up the modern neo-nazism with how things were 70-80 years ago. Modern neo-nazism is a joke and a bad one.

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So according to which the German nation to be the only one and rule the world ... there is almost no difference

I said earlier I'm nit picking the subject. There IS a difference even if it's a small one.

ive seen a few people on here with swastikas in their name, who try to defend themselves when the rest of the players make fun of him.

my favorite line from them is "you just dont get it" lolol

Dear Silver, now that you aware of that article I recommend you to read it.

That Hitler was a racist is not only a popular view, its also a scientific fact.
That history is written by the winners has nothing to do with that. The written history by the winners involves whitewashing their own history, but in this context it means downplaying their own racism. Hitler wasnt the only racist and racism and antisemitism was popular in all europe at that time. Racial supremacy which was the ideological basis for colonialism can be found in many (not only) european nations as well and is in its very nature racist. I hoped reading the definition in that article you made clear that you aware of, would clarify that, but somehow you still failed to acknowledge it.

Also Elroi, my mistake, you can't participate because you're a jew like I said earlier. You can't participate becaue you're stupid. There. Fixed.

At least you can see now, that your comment was in truth racist and I have no more problem with how you fixed it.

Elaborating on your last part, I have to say that I never mentioned German, German nation or German tribes in privious posts, nor I did dispute that Germans are an ethnicity. They can be considered an ethnic group but the ethnicity they are part of is bigger, yes.

The rest you wrote is pretty silly ad hominem argumentation.

Consider everything bold. You still have a lot to learn and I am not the worst teacher you can get.

Yeah and they deserve to be ridiculed for that to be fair.
I'm quite sure they have no clue how things really roll.

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scientific fact.

Get out of here. Haha. :D

Colonialism was all about nationality and not race.
You wanted to say slavery perhaps?

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Wow. I leave the forums for six hours and this happens

So he was not a racist, he just hates everyone except his nationality ... it even worse,

I'm sorry my mistake bringing slavery into this.
Slavery as a whole has nothing to do with race either. Sure at one point in history it did. But it still has a lot more to do with nationality than race.
White man has been a slave to a white man, as has a black man been a slave to a black man.

In fact even today sexual slavery is common and has nothing to do with race. Or nationality either to be fair. So that's bad example, but still proves that even slavery isn't about race.

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So he was not a racist, he just hates everyone except his nationality ... it even worse,

The fuck, I never said he was a great man that everyone had to admire.
He was a horrible human being, but before his downfall he actually helped his country a lot, I'm talking about the economical side of course.

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