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True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:40:09

Elroi{IL}
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So why did they kill civilians outside of Germany? And for me he is a racist ... right artist but also a racist
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:42:18


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Hitler wasn't a racist, he was a nazi, there's a difference.

Exactly all!
Not sparing fellow caucasian nations.

He was a German supremacist, a nationalist. He wasn't racist.


What a complete and utter bullshit. Of course he was a racist. He himself, as well as the Nazi ideology was an archtypus of racism. Maybe you need to look up the definition of racism again before you post more of that nonsense.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:42:34

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TO ELROI:
Of course for you he is a racist.
You're a jew, you are so biased about the whole subject it's even silly to include you in this.

TO MYHAND:
Uh no.
You need to look up the definition of racism.
But then again you're german you are biased as well. Hitler is a taboo for you.

Edited 9/22/2014 11:44:53
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:44:37


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TO ELROI:
Of course for you he is a racist.
You're a jew, you are so biased about the whole subject it's even silly to include you in this.


Now that my dear silver is a perfect display of racism. You mean to exclude a person of a discussion claiming a bias you assume he has because of his race or cultural background.

Edited 9/22/2014 11:45:57
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:45:43

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Perfect demonstration of throwing racism at everything like it's common these days.

Edited 9/22/2014 11:45:50
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:47:40


myhandisonfire 
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Hitler is not a taboo for me, but your inability to comprehend the definition of racism is startling me.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:48:28

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What I'm trying to say that there IS A DIFFERENCE between race and ethnicity.

But few can actually take a neutral stance on the subject so I'm not blaming you.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:50:42

Elroi{IL}
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So if the universe white citizen in the United States and say you need to get rid of all the other races in the United States, to land the white race ... so he is not racist, nationalist?
All race theory is based on racism, Nazi, fascist racist
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:51:17

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No that would be a racist, not a nationalist.
I'm getting mad now, HOW THE HELL CAN'T YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

Edited 9/22/2014 11:51:51
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:53:37

Elroi{IL}
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That is based on racism ... the Nazi view is based Aryan controls, Slavic slaves, and all the rest ... and for them to die a Jew had to be the first ...
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:55:54

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Do you know the difference between race and ethnicity?
I'm starting to think you don't. Of course it's easy to cry racism at everything if you pretend to not know or actually don't know the difference.

I'm sorry but I'm done. You can't be reasoned with.

My point was that the guys naming themselves after Hitler are just desperate for attention, any kind of attention.

Edited 9/22/2014 11:56:50
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:57:10

Elroi{IL}
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It's the same thing only in the United States ...
True Story:: 9/22/2014 11:58:52


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While there is a difference between race and ethnicity, you fail to see that racial supremacism is per definition racism. It is just a variant or subgroup of racism.

Why is that so difficult to accept?

Maybe you need the definitions explained so you can see it for yourself.

Racism : Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.

Supremacism: Supremacism is the belief that a particular age, race, species, ethnic group, religion, gender, sexual orientation, class, belief system or culture is superior to others and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control or rule those who do not.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:02:55

Elroi{IL}
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So what is different for example destroyed my grandmother (German Jewish) home on Kristallnacht ... this is not racism?
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:04:54

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Thanks for proving my point Myhand. :)
Or don't you see what you just did?
You just confirmed Hitler to be a German supremacist. And by your own definition given he can't be a racist.
based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities

I know you'll start arguing that part so let me explain before you do.
Being german isn't a trait, ability or a quality.
There are all types of germans, not all have blonde hair and blue eyes, they didn't die because of that.
German isn't a race.

Edited 9/22/2014 12:06:32
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:08:50


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Excerpt from Wikipedia:

While race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.

Thanks for reading Silver. I made the critical parts for you bold.

Edited 9/22/2014 12:10:42
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:09:42

Elroi{IL}
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It is clear that the German race ... the descendants of Germanic tribes.
Scandinavian, German and Austrian British Dutch (part of the German race
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:19:32

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Yeah I am aware of that WIKIPEDIA article.
I also am aware that I'm just nit picking the whole subject and that the popular view is that Hitler was a racist. But the popular view isn't always correct. History is written by the winners or however the saying goes.
But I really believe there's a difference, as I said earlier the line is blurry but in my opinion it's there and everyone are way too eager to label everything racist by default.

Also Elroi, my mistake, you can't participate because you're a jew like I said earlier. You can't participate becaue you're stupid. There. Fixed.

Also Myhand, germans aren't an ethnicity, they're a nation. Old germanic tribes could be called an ethnicity of their own, but the modern german people aren't ethnic.
Surely you know the difference between a nationality and an ethinicity?
The fact that you jumped on my ethnicity comment earlier shows you're clutching straws just to prove me wrong. So much hate in you.


Thanks for reading Myhand, I made the critical parts for you bold.

Edited 9/22/2014 12:20:17
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:25:33

Elroi{IL}
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What to do with hate? There is a German breed as there race Slav and Celtic race like that ... right is split into several states.
Not interest me and cut short (not a reliable source) It racist prejudices about other races. All Nazi doctrine is based on it. So to confuse the brain is a racist, It a fact.
Safe at = 100% which is racist but bullshit it national?
Is the only national But for his race should rule the world ....
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:28:24

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NO!
Yet again.
Nazism is based on supremacy, not racism.
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