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Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 3/28/2013 20:30:09


Chokecherry 
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Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 3/28/2013 20:33:06


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Concept

The Promotion/Relegation League is a seasonal group of round-robin Warlight tournaments, always on the classic “strategic middle earth” map and settings. Players are grouped into small groups (7 on average, previously 6). At the end of each season, the top players of each group are promoted to the next group above. Bottom players are relegated to the next group below. Middle players remain in the same group.

The league is meant to appeal to players who want to see, over the course of several seasons, where their natural level of competition might take them. For new, skilled participants, this means patience in getting to the levels where they will be challenged. Hopefully, that is part of the fun. The idea is to see how quickly you can progress, how long you can stay high, or how long it takes to stop a skid.

Rules

The league is run with a balance of predictability and flexibility. Final decisions are made by the league administrator (currently Chokecherry) with an attempt to consider input of league players.

Currently, the model is to typically have the top two promote and the bottom two relegate but there are exceptions. Where there is default – a player becoming inactive or asking to bow out of the league – there can be more promotions to fill in the vacancy. Where this happens in several groups there can be a lot of shuffling. The principle, though, is to usually have at least one player from each group relegated. Several retirements mean fewer relegations and more super-promotions to keep the groups filled.

Any player inactive in the last three games of any tournament is deemed to be out of the league and can only return as a new player in an expansion or bottom group.

Placements in a round-robin are determined by number of wins. In the event of a tie, placements are determined by head-to-head results among the tied. Occasionally, there are loops of ties that cannot be resolved by the head-to-head rule. A tie-breaking tournament then takes place unless all the players involved agree to otherwise settle the tie. Where a tie-breaking tournament would delay the league too much, average turn-speed is rewarded to resolve such ties.

Anyone can join the league, members and non-members alike, simply by request in the most recent “Promotion/Relegation League” forum thread. New players begin in the bottom group or in an expansion group. Promotions from expansion groups depend on numbers within the new groups.

Before the beginning of each season, a summary of the movements will be announced to allow for questions or corrections. The league works most smoothly if those who wish to bow out of it let the administrator know before the new season begins instead of simply declining to play after the groups have been determined and tournaments begun.

The history of the last season can be reviewed from links in the season 7 thread: http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=5332
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/3/2013 22:37:24


Dutch Desire
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I would like to join, is it possible for me to join H2?
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/5/2013 15:30:20


Chokecherry 
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Sorry Dutch, you're a bit too late for this season; but if you're still interested when this one is over, you can get in on season 9.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/5/2013 16:34:01


Dutch Desire
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ok, to bad. I will be waiting for season 9 then.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/6/2013 21:34:04

Dom365 
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Hi, when is Season 9 likely to start?

I appreciate it does depend on how long each game takes, so it's not easy to say, but do you have any rough idea?
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/7/2013 01:45:18


Pushover 
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Given the gap of time between the season 7/8 threads, about 2 months. Maybe longer, since groups are bigger now.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/7/2013 10:02:48

Dom365 
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Okay, thanks!
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/14/2013 17:25:37


Chokecherry 
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Looking ahead:

Here is the promotion pattern for next season as I see it. We have 6 in B, 5 in F, 6 in H1 and 5 in H2 (but only 4 moving on). The rest have 7.

A: aaaaabb
B: aabbbcc
C: bccccdd
D: cddddee
E: deeeeff
F: effggh1h2
G: fggggh1h2
H: gh1h2h1h2h1h1

An alternative would be to once again increase the size of the groups a bit, this time to 8. I doubt they would get any bigger than that. If we went to groups of 8, we would probably have an ordinary pattern of 3 up, 3 down, 2 stay. But season 9 would look like this, I think.

A: aaaaabbc
B: aabbbccd
C: bcccddde
D: cdddeeef
E: eeefffgg
F: fggggh1h2
G: gh1h2h1h2h1h2h1,?
H: ?

I'm in favour of the second pattern (groups of 8). What are players' thoughts?
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/14/2013 18:27:51


hedja 
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With groups of 8 each season takes too long IMO, however if this makes your job easier then I am fine with it.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/15/2013 04:28:20


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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hey so im gonna drop out after this season
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/15/2013 08:39:04


Pushover 
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I would prefer the first format just because of all the talent in the new groups. I'd like to see the winners (who will definitely not include me) be promoted higher and have a chance against better competition. With all the new players I feel like the league is a bit bottom-heavy.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/15/2013 08:43:10


Pushover 
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...Of course I reply without thinking things all the way through. 3 up and 3 down is exactly the mobility I think the league needs. And maybe the new groups are too small to accurately gauge new talent. So maybe the second option is better after all. :P
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/18/2013 20:15:20


wakanarai 
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Maybe a other way for promotion with 8 players each group will be:
A. aaaaabbc
B. aabbbccd
C. abbccdde
D. bccddeef

And than so till the last groups are coming.

If you don't have enough participants at the beginning of next season you can invite me so let say that you can put me on the reserve list
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/19/2013 16:24:34


ChrisCMU 
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I prefer your first method. Increasing group size would create even more issues if other people drop off.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/19/2013 17:01:51


ChrisCMU 
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I'll play either way though unless it gets stagnant (just playing same people all the time)
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/23/2013 14:46:03


Chokecherry 
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Some notable performances to report already:

Dreuj, Marechal Lannes and Widzisz have each completed and won their respective groups (B, G, H2) entirely undefeated!
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/23/2013 14:53:03


Chokecherry 
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Based on the little feedback received (both here and otherwise), I think we carry on with groups of 7 for now. Clifford, thanks for letting us know! I'll do an adjusted promotion pattern a bit later in case others notify us of quitting.

There will be room for anyone who wishes to join season 9 - it is likely to be a few weeks yet.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/23/2013 16:56:05


ChrisCMU 
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Sort of off topic, but are you taking the team ones back over Clifford? Lolowut quit Warlight (probably will be back eventually, but who knows?).
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/23/2013 18:54:26


charfa
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Hi, I'm quitting this league too. But being in one of the lowest groups I suppose it won't affect promotions much :)
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/23/2013 21:12:54


Chokecherry 
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Thanks for letting us know.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/30/2013 12:53:32


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Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 4/30/2013 13:07:21


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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there is a slight chance group D will need a 3-way tiebreaker as well..
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/1/2013 14:31:53


Chokecherry 
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... And a definite need for one in Group G:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4725
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/6/2013 14:49:28


Chokecherry 
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Congratulations to Ruthless Bastard who triumphs in Elite Group A this season going undefeated all 6 games. And in Group C, Chewie also runs the table. Congrat's.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/6/2013 15:08:18


Ekstone 
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I would like to join to this league, how I can?
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/6/2013 19:29:31


Chokecherry 
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I'll add you in for season 9. It might be another week or two before it is ready to begin.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/6/2013 22:43:59


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Group E also has an undefeated winner: Marc2013!
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/7/2013 09:39:13

Dom365 
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Choke, if you're taking reservations for next season, I'd like to apply, please.

If not, I'll return in a week or so to bug you! :D
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 5/8/2013 20:06:40


Dutch Desire
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I would like to join Season 9, i really like this league concept.
Chokecherry your the best for making time to organize this!
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