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Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 02:50:03

JSA 
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It's been a while since the ladder was this strong.

Fatality, summer, gnuffone, timinator, ottoman emporer, Schmidt. All 6 have had a lot of ladder success in the past and all continue to play at a high level consistently.

Combine that with the players who haven't had as much ladder success in the past: timon, math wolf, kantos, master of chaos, master of desaster. All of these players have played at a very high level like the veterans.

Not to mention who deadman is (I would guess Chris37 but don't know for sure). Always the chance he's not an alt at all.

Overall, this makes for a very strong ladder currently.

Edited 9/16/2014 02:55:33
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 06:22:21


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Knew there was a reason I'm 90th atm...
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 06:48:41


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Yes. You are 92nd because on the ladders there are some people who know how to play..
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 08:12:04


Math Wolf 
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"A veteran (from Latin vetus, meaning "old") is a person who has had long service or experience in a particular occupation or field"

Very informative list. I especially like the part where you say I play "like the veterans" as if I'm less experienced than the other players. I'm way longer on the ladder than all the players you mention.
Actually, at the moment, the only person longer on the ladder than me, is this guy (pun intended): http://warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=160

So explain me again why Fatality, summer, gnuffone, timinator, ottoman emporer, Schmidt are all "veterans" compared to me?
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 08:41:51


[WM] Gnuffone 
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doesn't matter since when you played, i think jsa looked at how many games we played.

Edited 9/16/2014 08:42:01
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 09:14:21

Pulsey
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JSA strikes again!
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 09:14:22

Pulsey
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Edited 9/16/2014 09:14:30
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 11:44:44

JSA 
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Math wolf, I look at when the players were good. You've never consistently been in the top 10 before but now you have. But yeah, it sounds kinda weird to leave you out of the veterans.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 13:25:17


Math Wolf 
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lol @ "You've never consistently been in the top 10 before"

July 2011 - September 2011 (peak at 2)
March 2012 (peak at 10)
July 2012 - October 2012 (peak at 2)
February 2013 (peak at 4)
January 2014 - February 2014 (peak at 6)
June 2014 - September 2014 (peak at 1)

Difference is, I didn't leave the ladder when I played bad, I just played on not caring for rank or rating. Again, I'm pretty sure I have more days in the top 10 than at least half of the "veterans" you mention.

@ Gnuffone: I would accept your answer, but I do have more ladder games than most of the so called "veterans" as well...

Still, I'm not claiming I'm as good as them. Fatality, summer & timinator are certainly better than me. I haven't played enough with the others to know for sure they are as well, but based on reputation, Gnuffone certainly is. I don't see based on current statistics how schmidt and Ottoman Emperor would be better, more consistent or more "veteran" than me, but may you do know something that I don't. (Alts?)

It still strikes me as strange to me to call it "veterans" or "consistent", maybe a word like "reputation" would have been better? (I'm sure native English speakers could find even better words to describe what you mean.)

Also when you talk about veterans, I don't even think about myself, I imagine Impaller, Doushibag, Duke, Blue Precision, Ruthless, Fizzer, Gaia, Troll and the like, people who have been around since before you were born.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 13:34:12


Math Wolf 
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Maybe an additional question that you as the list maker can answer (not sarcastic, I'm genuinly interested in this):
Are there any (other) players that have achieved a top 5 position (or even top 10) in each year (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)?
I was thinking about Ace Windu (18 in 2011, 14 in 2013), fatality (started 2012) or Timi (started 2012) but so far I only found Teddy (who is probably also very "consistent" using your criteria (although I do agree that he is a veteran)): http://warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=166
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 13:41:53


ChrisCMU 
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I would bet Summer has except for 2011 because she started in 2012 as well.

HHH has been top 10 every year or higher: http://warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=240

At any rate, your point is valid.

Edited 9/16/2014 13:46:13
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 13:47:53


Math Wolf 
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HHH has been top 10 every year or higher: http://warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=240
Yeah, I was very surprised to notice he didn't get a top 5 yet in 2014 because he's by far the most consistent in the period 2011-2013. He still has 3 months to do it, may not be impossible. (He may be the number 1 if/when TS is implemented with full history.)

Edited 9/16/2014 13:50:27
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 13:51:45


[WM] Gnuffone 
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i pretty agree on most of math wolf say, except this:
Also when you talk about veterans, I don't even think about myself, I imagine Impaller, Doushibag, Duke, Blue Precision, Ruthless, Fizzer, Gaia, Troll and the like, people who have been around since before you were born.

All of this ppl are inactive (ofc except Fizzer :P) so is useless speak of ppl aren't playing anymore imo.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 14:10:12


Ace Windu 
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JSA got schooled by the Math Wolf.

Also I got to 3rd in 2011, then 1st in 2012 although that run crossed New Year's.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 14:49:02


Pushover 
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*pat pat* shush, it's okay, JSA is just a little bit wrong, that's all. It happens from time to time. :P

(JSA knows a lot but he gets weird blind spots when things don't match up to his personal experience, is all. Surely I've done the same?)
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 20:21:32

JSA 
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Not a blindspot here; I just hadnt realized math wolf had done well in the past. I apologize for the mistake and would add you to the veterans :)

Either way, it makes no difference the ladder has 12-13 very good players right now.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 20:24:34


master of desaster 
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Math wolf, I look at when the players were good. You've never consistently been in the top 10 before but now you have. But yeah, it sounds kinda weird to leave you out of the veterans.

how dare you not to put me to the veterans then? You made me really sad. words hurt you know?
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/16/2014 20:44:38

JSA 
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I put you in newer players becaues you joined warlight less than 2 years ago. For me, I consider veterans to be those that have been good warlight players for at least a year. You have made a lot of improvement in the past 6-9 months.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/17/2014 14:03:55


Silver 
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Did the amount of awesomeness on the ladder break it?
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/17/2014 18:28:26


۞RoastedChicken۞
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I'm not sure Silver, I think I better leave it for the good of Warlight.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/19/2014 21:39:09


Kenny • apex 
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JSA and his list vs an actual statistician. Good show.
Very strong 1v1 ladder?: 9/24/2014 16:14:53


Green 
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@Gnuffone

i pretty agree on most of math wolf say, except this:
Also when you talk about veterans, I don't even think about myself, I imagine Impaller, Doushibag, Duke, Blue Precision, Ruthless, Fizzer, Gaia, Troll and the like, people who have been around since before you were born.

All of this ppl are inactive (ofc except Fizzer :P) so is useless speak of ppl aren't playing anymore imo.

Sorry to be so pedantic, but as you were I feel it's justified. But Doushibag's active too, he's even been posting on the forum and took part in the AI games.
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