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Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 11:15:37


Ko 
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I've now completed the single player levels with a satisfactory result, and although ladder/membership is tempting, I dare not join (the last time I jumped into a game wholeheartedly was World of Warcraft, and it took me 6 years - and many server #1's - to get out again). I can already see the potential for full addiction with Warlight, so I'm going to stay on the sidelines...

Inspired by the threads concerning market vs communisum, and in the interest of generating some competition around who can bitch-slap the AI hardest, I am going to put some money on the line and see if the "market" reacts. I am hereby offering to pay membership for anyone who can beat my stats in the single-player levels. By this I mean completing all the single-player levels (including tutorial) with fewer totals moves than I have used.

I look forward to someone (anyone) taking up the challenge!
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 11:19:46


Robespierre 
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As tempting as it is, it is mathematically impossible to beat level 1 in fewer than 6 turns. Nice idea though!
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 11:20:50


Robespierre 
Level 19
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Or maybe I misread. Maybe you meant fewer total moves for all levels rather than beating each individual level in fewer moves. My mistake.
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 12:06:44


Ko 
Level 60
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@Maximilien (de Robespierre): You don't need to beat me on *each* level, but on the total score for *all* levels combined. I realize that my scores on the tutorial and on level 1 are not beatable, but they are also very easy to match.

My score on Europe is also very close to "perfect" (unless your AI partner in a stroke of random brilliance decides to head south and take and hold Turkey/Cypress/Greece - which I've actually seen happen! But once again, Europe in 14 is actually not difficult.

Your chance to best me lies primarily in Level 3 and "Crazy Challenge", where I simply don't have the patience to play dozens of games in the hopes of getting the ideal layout that favors a really quick win. But therein lies the fun! I'm hoping that single-player fans and cheapskates alike will give it a run and report back. Hell, I'll even send $30 to existing members who can beat me...
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 12:15:52

Matflan50
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I'll give it a shot :)
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 12:52:53


[WG] Warlightvet 
Level 16
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i'll beat you in multiplayer any day... but i can't stand fighting ai :(
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 13:09:16

Heyheuhei 
Level 57
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http://warlight.net/Profile?p=45455266 His stats is better in singleplayer than your(exept Europe) :( And i beat level 3 in 16 turns :/
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 19:45:27


Min34 
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I could do it like you. Make risky moves and every turn it works you save the game. But that will take way to long for me -.- No patience for that and much more important no fun or stragic (seriously, trying something till it works in WarLight is not a sign of good play in my opinion). It seems to be the only way to complete challenges like the Insane challenge though. Which is quite a shame IMO.
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 20:22:00

Kantos
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just buy membership for yourself it will at least help Fizzer
Even I want the Membership for free but... defeating AI ... u should find a better way or do what all people offering do a tournament (someone can create for u) but it will take some time
Offering Free Membership: 3/18/2013 20:32:33

Fizzer 
Level 58

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It's cool you want to help out. I can understand the addition element.

However, offering a membership on single-player stats might not be ideal, partly because it's possible to cheat in single-player (all of the game takes place on your own computer, so there's nothing stopping someone from hacking the client and faking scores, see http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Cheating)

Instead, you might want to consider hosting a free membership tournament, since it's not possible to cheat in multi-player. It's also more fun since you can watch the tournament games, see people's chat, etc.

If you decide you want to do this, I can set it up for you. Just go to http://warlight.net/Purchase and select "Purchase as a gift that can be e-mailed to anyone", and enter an email address of fizzer@warlight.net.

If you have any specific settings or terms you want set for the tournament, e-mail them to me at fizzer@warlight.net. Otherwise I'll just use my best judgement.
Offering Free Membership: 3/19/2013 03:27:36


[WG] Warlightvet 
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lol, when i was looking up solutions for the insane challenge i found one that gave you an extra 100 armies/turn. it worked perfectly, great strategy =D
Offering Free Membership: 3/19/2013 03:28:48


[WG] Warlightvet 
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sorry for double post, but it was on another website, not actually warlight, so obviously it didn't show up on my stats or anything
Offering Free Membership: 3/19/2013 18:36:07


Min34 
Level 60
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Or if you feel very generous, you can give it to me ;D
Offering Free Membership: 3/19/2013 20:51:32

Kantos
Level 60
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... [REGL]Min34 ... (come on if eveyone ask no one wins)In case that he doesnt want wait much time he can do a 24 FFA in a small map like http://warlight.net/Map?ID=2553
it would be more fast and would at least give a chance to 24 people

the only problem is that it easy to get in a stalemate in these type of games

ps: if u do my idea plz invite me
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 00:28:57

Seahawks 
Level 51
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since i was the first person ever to get tutorial in 3 turns can i get the membership?
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 00:32:33

Seahawks 
Level 51
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oh and if you do a game like kantos thought of or a tourney like fizzer said can i be invited?
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 04:16:35

Kantos
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you guys should stop using double post
another way u can ask for (the longest game that the player had and win)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=1672150
this game has 988 turns and take more than 1 year in real life with me and dagorin without getting booted and playing at least one time per 3 days, because automatic boot 3 day

but this way probaly u will find few peoples with more time in real life (and at least 2 people playing, not AI vs 1 person)
and if u look by turn is easy to find over 1000 turns

All I want is a convenient and give a chance to many people (single person someone can cheat)

other thing. if u do a way to select someone exclude the membership player because I think its unfair one person has 2 or more chance to get membership because they are friends or in the same clan or etc...
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 04:39:00

Seahawks 
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a tourney similar to that is one i once saw where its using the tic-tac-toe map with gift cards and bonuses are negative, i think timinator was in this tourney and while it takes forever it has strategy in it so you can win without the other player making a mistake
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 05:28:25


[WG] Warlightvet 
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stop begging for memberships and double posting...
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 05:28:45


[WG] Warlightvet 
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...btw, can i have another membership please?
Offering Free Membership: 3/20/2013 23:56:20

Seahawks 
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lol
Offering Free Membership: 3/21/2013 04:08:59

Kantos
Level 60
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I think Ko_in_DK has forgoten this topic
Offering Free Membership: 3/23/2013 09:18:53


Ko 
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Been busy in real life, and trying to focus on my games when I *do* get a free moment (I've joined some multi-player games and am really liking it, even though it takes some getting used to seeing different maps, settings, etc. - will probably lose a bunch of games before I start winning).

But I certainly haven't forgotten the topic, nor will I try to weasel out of paying for someone's membership (although given the possibilities for cheating in single-player, I might have to reconsider how to do it). I see that this thread has become more a discussion about membership via tournament, but my intention was really to generate more interest in single-player.

I *know* that fighting AI is quite different from fighting players, and that many people consider it boring, but it's every bit as valid (for example) as holding a free-throw competition instead of a basketball tournament. It's just a different type of competition.

The reason I'd like to see more interest in single player is that it is the way most people seem to get hooked on Warlight (I've been reading alot of forums and hear alot of people saw it on Kongregate and eventually found their way here). I certainly don't want to rehash the old discussion on the advantages of having more members, but improving the single-player maps (by having more variety and/or settings more like what are used in ranked games) will raise *everyone's* level of play, making Warlight a much better game in the end.

BTW, this is not the thread to have that argument. This thread is about an offer (still on the table) to reward some hard work with a free membership. I still hope to have some contenders step forward to claim the prize
NOTE: I reserve the right to take a week to improve my own scores should any such prospective claimant emerge!


P.S. I happen also to have some ideas on how to improve the single-player experience and at the same time ease the transition from single to multiplayer (which is a barrier to more people than you might think). I will make a seperate post about that later...
Offering Free Membership: 3/24/2013 00:41:23

Kantos
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well I think the best way to make new player that only played single-player games to adapt to multi-player is starting participate in mini-tournaments that can only accept players with less than 100 games
like theses
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=1515
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=1547
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=1542

the only problem is that u need the help of someone who is already a member in WL

and tournaments that help new players with "Light Fog" and "No Fog" games to learn the basics

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=1506


if u are trying to find a way to make new players to easy new player to transfer from single-player to multi-player
Offering Free Membership: 3/24/2013 10:34:05


何流沙
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Some of the experienced guys have plenty of multiaccounts, you know... So limiting to 100 or less games may not work exactly like you would like it to..
Offering Free Membership: 3/24/2013 18:07:26

Kantos
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well except for trolls, almost all veterans will not enter in these tournaments
Offering Free Membership: 3/24/2013 20:55:03


[WG] Warlightvet 
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most people with multis make them to troll or as teammates, they usually don't care about beating a bunch of beginners in tournaments, that's boring and useless (like every tournament i join! too easy... (jk))
the mini tournaments are a good idea but ppl with less than 100 games tend to get booted a LOT and it could work the other way round, i think the main obstacle from keeping playing is not having friends/a community to help improve and understand the basics, without which it's a lot harder to have fun.
Offering Free Membership: 3/25/2013 09:43:02


Ironheart
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Why not have it between 100-200 games played.
Offering Free Membership: 3/25/2013 12:43:21


[WG] Warlightvet 
Level 16
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that's actually a really good idea
we're getting more and more off subject here lol XD
Offering Free Membership: 5/4/2013 08:23:41

algaes
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hi,

If you are still interested to know, i got your scores beat by 7 turns.
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