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Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 12:10:11


his balls. 
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Oh yeah. Having people anonymous during play sounds good to me.

Local deployments on ME is fine. Turkey is just a mess.
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 12:24:54


Latnox 
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Well, ME LD was just too long to play.

Also:

Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 12:39:44


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Sze - Where did you read the time's going to get reduced? Fizzer writes only about adding bank to the initial turn..

Fizzer - As for the pairing on RT ladder - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a popup notice about new game or a blinking icon next to mail icon maybe? that would say "hey, check games, cause one of your games has just started" It would be nice if there were two icons - one informing that you have been invited to a game, and the other that a game with you in it has started.

The abovementioned would decimate boots on RT ladder, and would make it much easier to find players for RT games - sometimes people are online, willing to play, but are in another game and don't check their games menu..
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 13:25:02


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Voters overwhelmingly favor hiding who is online. I agree with the sentiment, but this has some technical problems in implementing it perfectly. It’s easy to remove the list from the main real-time ladder page, and also remove the online status from the individual player’s ladder page. However, someone could still look at the list of recently finished games, and then compare that to their list of games that person is in to see who recently became available on the ladder. If the total count of players was shown, this could be combined with the previous list to give a pretty accurate picture of who is online.
Perhaps this could be countered by hiding real-time games until a few hours after they’re done. This just feels like a bad solution though. Even if that was done, there will always be some ways of figuring out who might be playing that can’t be stopped, such as people that play at predictable schedules or if someone always joins the RT ladder when they’re online.
When I originally developed the real-time ladder, I was hoping it would draw bigger numbers. If there were more people online all the time, I feel that hiding the list would be less important since, if there’s a large list of people online, you have less control over what opponent you’ll get. Certainly there’s a lot that can be done to increase the draw of the real-time ladder – the items in this poll is a start, and the process for joining a game can be streamlined to avoid making players refresh their list manually while waiting for a game to get created.
This one will stay on the backburner for now since I’m not sure how to best implement it. I’d like to open it up for discussion though – please post your ideas or thoughts!


being able to see the latest games doesn't really worry me as much as seeing the exact list of who is currently joined. most people who are playing the realtime ladder only play 1 or 2 games on each session, so there will always be some unsureness if the people count in the ladder are the same who recently finished the games or someone else altogether.

about the number of people playing: i don't think the RT ladder has proper visibility on the warlight site, it should be a clear join/unjoin button on the open games page, that's where most users are going looking for a new game. right now it's hidden 3 clicks deep into the website. i realize this requires some changes on the layout, but it would bring in a lot more players imho.
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 13:35:47


Mirror 
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I totally agree on visibility ov RT ladder. Open games tab looks to me like best solution.

Advertised as like what was suggested (as type of autogame, join button) and maybe even popup "Open game waiting in RL ladder. Join now!!"
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 14:07:41


szeweningen 
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Sze - Where did you read the time's going to get reduced? Fizzer writes only about adding bank to the initial turn..


Unless I misunderstood something Fizzer will change rt ladder boot to 3 mintes with 5 minutes in the bank for the whole game.
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 14:46:50


Polat Alemdar 
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1 strat Turkey


that was my vote :)

edit:
-1 Season 3 - EA&O


that was also my vote

Edited 9/11/2014 14:48:19
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 14:47:51


Beren Erchamion 
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@sze, that is how i read it before as well, but i went back and re-read what he actually said.
Most people favor using banking boot times. Sounds good to me -- we’ll try it as an experiment and see how it goes.

I guess it's actually a bit ambiguous what he means, though more people voted for the 3 minute thing than just adding 5 minute bank to the beginning of the game.
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 15:28:36


DanWL 
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I voted on having the names of the players online to be removed in the RT ladder, thinking that it would just show the amount of people already competing in that ladder.

Edit 2: To help promote the ladders, you could create single/multi player templates with the option of showing ladder templates, when you want to create a game that is based on a ladder in order to gain experience.

e.g. http://s25.postimg.org/ny9qsqc1b/Ladder_templates_e_g.jpg

Edited 9/11/2014 16:06:12
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 15:47:32


ChrisCMU 
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Yeah, i was sad to see SR fail. Also curious to hear on 3v3 europe ladder too
Ladder poll results: 9/11/2014 15:52:43


The National Socialist
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Lol, I checked out the new Blog post and was shocked when I didn't see the TrueSkill on the list, until I cam back and realized it takes time to code :p
Ladder poll results: 9/12/2014 01:47:18


lawm 
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The only concern I have with the reduction in match making is are there enough players to play? Is it 20% of your rank or rating? I imagine I won't really have much of a problem at 50 as I can go up and down, but MOD is ranked consistently top 10. Are there enough players for him to continue to play at 5 games at a time?
Ladder poll results: 9/12/2014 05:50:24


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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szeweningen.. :( Seems like in this thread, everything seems fine, but on the blogpost, Fizzer indeed announced 3min + bank, which is not what people voted for. Furthermore i second you, it can potentially reduce tha strategic value of the games a lot - especially mid/late game.. :(
Ladder poll results: 9/12/2014 20:23:23


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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3 mins + bank is best :)
Ladder poll results: 9/12/2014 20:50:08


Timinator • apex 
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So changing plans mid-turn isn't possible anymore? big dislike :(
Ladder poll results: 9/12/2014 21:05:33


Beren Erchamion 
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Maybe it would work if you could bank time back up to 5 minutes? So if you start with 5 minutes banked and there was a maximum of 5 minutes. Presumably you won't need 3+ minutes every single turn.

This way you have an upper bound of 5 minutes plus 3 * number of turns for the length of the game and you'll still be able to take your time on critical turns.
Ladder poll results: 9/12/2014 21:14:07


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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over half of the people stated they need 5 minutes or even more, and they all were ignored. congratulations.
Ladder poll results: 9/13/2014 18:12:42


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Fridge, most popular option is being implemented.
Ladder poll results: 9/15/2014 08:13:09


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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if the poll was slightly different and these were the results:

2 min - 2 votes
3 min - 1 vote
4 min - 1 vote
5 min - 1 vote
6 min - 1 vote
7 min - 1 vote
8 min - 1 vote
9 min - 1 vote

would you still make it 2 minutes because it was "the most popular"?????

are you really that blind/stupid?
Ladder poll results: 9/15/2014 18:51:14


ChrisCMU 
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This seems minor, but would help a lot with page navigation. Can we please make the default team our last team and not the first? Every time I go to the ladder page it shows me and Noobschool, who was my first teammate. It is not even the highest rating, which also makes some sense.
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