when is the 1v1?

in about 45 minutes i believe

The Poles are cool people . Really tall.

These 1v1 tournaments are too long. What about doing two 8-player tournaments rather than one for 16 players? It gives many possibilities:

-If both tournaments end reasonably early, the standard real-time final game between both winners can be arranged. If not, it can be made multiday. Or not at all.
-When you have 24 players, you can make 3 tournaments. As 3-players RRs suck, you just announce all 3 of them winners. Just for the show you can also make a game between 2 of them, choosen by viewers, or take the 2 who finish first.
-Seeding. You can choose 2 or 4 (3 or 6) favourites and distribute them evenly to the tournaments, then add the rest of the players randomly. This one seems like too much work though.

do you realise how stupid your first point is? do you know what a 16-player tournament is? it is simply 2 8 player tournaments where the top 2 play each other in the final!
The idea of seeding is decent, but it is interesting to get high seeding first round matches, if not the first part of the stream would be very boring, also by the final there are usually 2 high quality players (or at least good) since you cannot easily win that many matches in a row to get to the final by luck, maybe the first 2, but not all of them.

We're not here to ridicule ideas Hedja.

I don't see how this will speed things up at all. Controlling seeds also won't speed things up. If you wish to complain about the length of the 1v1 tournaments, then I fear for what you think of the length of the 2v2 tournaments.

Autoboot for 1v1 is 5 minutes.
Autoboot for 2v2 is 8 minutes.

The average speed for the 1v1 tournaments has been somewhere around 2 hours and 30 minutes to 3 hours

The average speed for the 2v2 tournaments has been somewhere around 3 hours to 3 hours and 30 minutes. That is, with the exception of the round robin we did that lasted 4 hours.

Round Robins make long events, always seem to be 4 hours +. However, a 64 people single elimination 1v1 tournament did not exceed 4 hours.

It has little to do with changing the tournament structure when we have 8, 16, 32, or 64 people playing. You make a valid point on the 24 person, that would be faster.

What it mostly has to deal with is the template. If it's a map that not many people know, they spend time trying to learn it. If it's inherently a large map, then it takes awhile to play. If it's a map people are familiar with, and is small, the tournament goes quite quickly. (Turkey 1v1 does not fit both of these profiles for everyone, therefore is just about as quick as Strat ME)

If you wish for us to speed up the tournaments, all I can do is ask if you have a template other than Strat ME that most people will be familiar with and is quick. If you have one, suggest it. If not, then I apologize that the tournaments are not quick enough for you.

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Is there any links to the tournmants?

2v2 link
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4156

Hedja, I have no idea what your problem with my first point is.

Lolowut, I'm not here to complain, but to suggest an improvement. The majority of your 1v1 tournaments end under 3 hours and that's great. But some of them don't. That's when playing in them is not fun anymore. I was in the finals four times, some of them ended after midnight for me, I know what I'm talking about. And that's when having an option of playing the final game multi-day would be nice. Hey people, options are good!
Sure, the same effect would be achieved by putting no autoboot, but get two inactive people to play each other in the first round and you are screwed.
I also should clarify one thing: the purpose of it is not to make the tournaments shorter, but less tiring for the players. When tournamets drag for over 4 hours, most of the viewers don't care anymore, commentators take a break and eventually stop streaming without analysing the final, but the players have no choice, they have to play real-time. The final is supposed to be the best game, right? It requires concentration, right?

If I'm really the only person who thinks that your tournaments sometimes drag for too long then whatever, ignore me. I just suggested a way to get around it.

As for 2v2 tournaments, I'm not a teamplayer, I don't know, I don't care.

I know that it's hard work carried out by you guys, and we are all thankful for it.

And some final words: English is not my native language (hell, it's not even my secondary), so if anyone finds my posts blunt/offending/what else, that wasn't intended and I'm sorry for this.

I agree with rento. Playing a championship game late (4-5am for me) is not especially fun. By that point it's autopilot clicking. The clever moves that got you to the finals might not be made in the finals if you can't keep your eyelids open.

I always wanted a feature that allowed a hybrid-type tournament. Real-time for every game but the finals, or control the boot time as the tournament progresses. This way the tournament could kick-start at a fast rate, and then progressively turn into a competitive multi-day tournament as soon as the 'fodder' are done away with. (Or the fodder upsets a few times to make it more interesting).

As for shortening the time of the tournaments, all I can do is use more well-known/smaller templates. The mixture of tournaments or round-robins.. they simply won't work.

http://www.twitch.tv/wargaminglive# <-- Live for Lolowut's Coffee Break. Forgot to post here but I did make an announcement tourney

These 1v1 tournaments are too long. What about doing two 8-player tournaments rather than one for 16 players? It gives many possibilities:

Ok look at a 16 player toruny, and forget about the championship game, just look at one half of the tourny. How many players are there? it is 2 - 8 player tournys. The only difference is that you put 16 in and cannot choose the seeds as well as in smaller tournys, but that is it. Sorry if i sounded harsh first time round :) i was in a bad mood.

any tournaments this weekend?

Shortlist Round Robin begins in about 45 minutes. Stream will start once two rounds finish.

any tournaments this weekend?

Yes, there will be tournaments like usual.

Link to Tournament: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4202

It is an anonymous round robin between: Timinator, Heyheuhei, Frankdeslimste, Huruey, 13CHRIS37, and Artham

Since Timi and Huruey may or may not have made it, Gnuffone will be stepping into the tournament.

The new tournament is this: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4203 due to boot settings not being correct on the other one.

annd.. by the time I was available to host the tourney was over except for 2 games. Sorry guys, I'll do something about this event later.

Uhm, why don't you stream it?