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Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 16:05:59


À la recherche du temps perdu 
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Even if there are a lot of analogies between the 2 games I'd go for chess:

Other than the fact that picking and making openings is not so different, I feel that our position/income management is incredibly similar to position/pieces management of chess, and the same goes for timing management and for long run strategies.

What do you think?
(Please answer only if you are experienced in at least one of the 2 games)
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 16:08:23


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duh its moar liek ches i fink cos ches is playd on sqrs leik ches an pokr is playd wth cards something something heidegger



who's the trollussa now?
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 16:09:22


À la recherche du temps perdu 
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Do you miss me? :(
I will come back as soon as I can though=)
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 16:09:55


szeweningen 
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More like poker :)

Funny, I am quite good in both of them, but obviously warlight is more like poker. You can make some analogies to chess (for example preparing and executing an attack), but risk-management factor and overall similarity must go to poker. For example being able to execute last order is the same thing as being in position in poker (and how significant is that I shouldn't have to say).
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 16:26:16


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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chess- it rely s on strategy practice and knowing what the game mechanics are, poker on the other hand is a game of chance that requires no skill at all
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 16:27:51


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Absolute rubbish^^ You have to know the game mechanics of Texas Hold 'em; probabilities, etc.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 17:26:07


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mSleXflIq8

Red sky at night, shepherd's delight.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 17:26:47


Titron
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Warlight is definitly more like Chess :)

I can't see any parallels to Poker if you have a pure warlight game with luck at 0%, no fog, neutral armies down to 0, determined move order,(....). Planning moves is an important point in Chess and Warlight. For to handle with chances, you don't need poker. Math is more useful and universal. And in Chess exists possibilities too...
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 17:29:55


Pink 
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it depends a lot on how u choose to play it. It is a lot less like poke rin games like 1v1 strategic, but when it come sfor a heavy fog 6 players, poker all the way to the end
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:00:59


Richard Sharpe 
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Anyone who says poker, or any card game for that matter, is pure luck and requires no skill clearly doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't have the first clue of how to play cards.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:06:52


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Anyone who says poker, or any card game for that matter


Snap. Patience (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggar-My-Neighbour).
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:10:07


Richard Sharpe 
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Fine, any adult card game such as Hearts, Whist, Canasta, Cribbage etc.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:11:33


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Adults can play snap :(
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:16:10


Richard Sharpe 
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Aye, and adults can watch My Little Pony and play with GI Joes. Doesn't mean they are adults shows or toys.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:17:18


Master Miyagi • apex 
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Warlight could be considered more like poker, because poker requires knowledge of the game and when to take risks, but Poker is based upon a lot of luck in the get go because you have to play the cards you receive.
Chess however is different because you start in the same position every time and you have to know what your doing and how your going to do it.
I would say both have legitimate reasons that Warlight is like them but i conclude that Warlight is more like chess
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:19:37


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Um, it's called My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Get it right, Dick.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:30:07


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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Poker is based upon a lot of luck in the get go because you have to play the cards you receive.


This may be true for a lot of (weaker) players. But the good players don't play the cards but the player.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:30:47


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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I would say it is the most like RISK: The Game of Global Domination
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 18:41:26


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I think it's most like Beyblades.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 19:08:55


Ironheart
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I will say more like poker because in chess you have the starts predetermined you can't change the starts of the pieces at the beginning even auto pick playing 2 different games with same settings with auto you will not get same however in poker your decks always change.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 20:59:56


{rp} Kingmaker 
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I'd say on standard settings Warlight is 60% Poker, 35% Chess and 5% Snakes and Ladders! Where did I get those numbers? I plucked from the clouds in the sky.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/30/2012 21:14:07


[WG] Warlightvet 
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from the point of view of the influence of skill i'd say definitely chess, since someone good can beat a noob 100%, in poker it's probably 80-90% short term, while in warlight it's closer to 95%+

i don't know poker enough to say much, but i think a chess VS go comparison could be interesting as well, since it's very clearly a mix of both strategies: gaining territory and defeating enemy's material armies
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/31/2012 05:59:31


[REGL] Pooh 
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I think it's more like Poker. Poker players get laid a lot, just like Warlighters, unlike Chess Players.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/31/2012 07:39:15


Kenny • apex 
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It's like new chess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV1bpMamCtY

^-- A good example of such.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/31/2012 12:44:26


dunga • apex 
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Well, to me is more chess, I still find the player much more in control of the game, and luck plays big part, but not nearly as big as poker.

Choosing your bonus is like choosing what cards you want to play, and you dont have this chance in poker.
If played correctly and with a proper low-risk strategy, luck can influence the game to the end right way (but only like 5 to 10% of the time), but the rest of time luck will decide only the results of a few armies.

I dont care for playing first or playing last, because all this 50% chance situations needs to be taken into account when planning, so you cant complain about loosing first order for example, because your plan had 50% chance of failing.

Show me a game where luck completely turns a winning game around that i will make warlight into more like a poker game.
But the majority of the comebacks happens through awesome predictions of players to spot minor chances, and the luck in the end means knowing what your opponent will do, meaning it is skill.


To me like 85% chess (or any other non-luck-dice-card game) and 15% poker (or any other luck-card-dice game).

Also, playing first or last is like having the advantage of being white, and have the same piece.
In the game of Go, they can even grade this advantage, with what they call Komi, that is points delivered to the player that plays last, because of playing last.
Since warlight have first movers and late movers every turn, it evens out pretty quickly, to the point that you should realize how to play both possible scenarios.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/31/2012 15:28:15

The Duke of Ben 
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75% luck and auto distribution is absolutely closer to Poker than Chess. 0% luck (straight round) and manual distribution puts it a lot closer to Chess.

To make this a more informative post, here are the Warlight characteristics that I think are similar to Poker:

1. Reading opponents and predicting moves (much more similar to Poker than Chess)
2. No perfect knowledge of starting locations for yourself or your opponent(s)
3. Bluffing/Tricks
4. Hidden strategies (fog)

There are more, but I think that covers the major ones.

Similarly with Chess:

1. Better players can win nearly every time
2. Bad players almost never win championships
3. Both players can know their opponent's positions and the game outcome can still change
4. Each match is independent of previous matches outcomes (starting positions are not influenced by stack size, for instance)

Obviously different settings can influence any of these factors, like playing with different levels of luck or fog. Warlight will never quite reach Poker or Chess, but can add or remove influences from either game. That's why I personally find Warlight to be vastly superior to either of those games. Also, Warlight adds things like diplomacy which do not really exist in Chess or Poker, not to mention team games, FFA, and so on.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 12/31/2012 20:08:32


Najdorf
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poker is all based on statistics and game theory, similar to wl
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 1/1/2013 02:34:46

fwiw 
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with fixed 75% luck it is like poker

with luck 16% or lower it is chess
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 1/1/2013 02:49:39

[WM] Artham 
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Actually neither. It's most like bridge.
Is Warlight more like Chess or more like Poker?: 1/1/2013 03:03:30


Z-Dog 
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You're all wrong. It's MORE like Risk. Duh.
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