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Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:19:03

Hereturnsagain
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Please have a look at this game.

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=25014965

From turn 8

when player pink (Player Nell: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=29130855439)
met player red (player Triagon https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=15130855041)

red did not defend at all. Moreover pink took the terrs of red with the smallest possible amount of armies. Meanwhile red was going up north and then north west in the direction of the block at

<a t_1317>Castello di Lariano</a>

as if to support pink in the fight against grey (me) ie to take over the block with those armies?

I wanted to report this but would rather seek opinion and teh report button does not offer the possibility to report this but refers to a wiki page.

Any thoughts?
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:25:12


JK_3 
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While it might be annoying for you, players working together is an essential part of any FFA. As a result of that, it is not forbidden. As the wiki words it:
Colluding: Players working together is not against the rules, and you should not report players for doing so. To avoid collusion, play in 1v1 games where collusion is impossible, or in team games (since then the collusion is pre-arranged), or just play with friends you trust.
https://www.warzone.com/wiki/Rules#Non-rules
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:28:03


Ocean0.1 
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^
I think the only way it is cheating is if both accounts are actually the same person (correct me if I’m wrong)
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:31:35


JK_3 
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I think the only way it is cheating is if both accounts are actually the same person (correct me if I’m wrong)
Controlling multiple accounts in a way that gives you an advantage over other players (aka cheating) is not allowed.

This is however hard to prove, so only report players for multi accounting if you are sure of your case. Most players that appear to be multi accounting, are probably just colluding.

Edited 12/17/2020 22:31:52
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:34:42


Mista Sista
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This is suspicious behavior, though. Both accounts are playing from the same country and were created on the same day. Chances are that this player was using two accounts.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:36:13

Hereturnsagain
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Ad JK_3:

While it might be annoying for you, players working together is an essential part of any FFA

It looks as it had been been prearranged though. That is clear taking advantage of one player who wants to win the given FFA at th ecost of those who are not aware.

Ad Ocean0.1:

I think the only way it is cheating is if both accounts are actually the same person (correct me if I’m wrong)

Well I have no tools to verify whether the red player (player Triagon https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=15130855041) is the same player as player pink (Player Nell: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=29130855439)

They surely play from the sam ecountry.

moreover the red is only level 8 and seems to be losing most games. ant verify haow many times has this player played with teh pink player and helped pink win.


All in all FFA or nor I believe this not to be right.

And

Players working together is not against the rules

is actually not the case here as one player clearly works to the advantage of the other at the cost of other players not getting any benefit but only incurring a loss. That is not working toegther. That is illegal support.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:37:53


Ocean0.1 
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That is working together.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:38:17


Kenghis Ghan 
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No, that's working together.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:38:36


Ocean0.1 
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If I was in a FFA, and I was working with another person, I might give up some territories to help them fight off an enemy or finish a big bonus. It’s normal for people to do that in FFA.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:39:29


Mista Sista
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Again, it’s not against the rules to work together in any capacity. It’s more important that this seems to be an alt account. Like I said, the accounts were created on the same day and play from the same country. That’s not definitive proof, but it is cause for suspicion.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:41:56

Hereturnsagain
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What about those large stack of armies pushed by red in the direction of my terrs whicc I heavily defended through the territory of pink which is done without any collision or attemot of defence by pink? In teh meantime pink taking the terrs of red.

It practically means red is giving up to pink for pink to gain strenght.

I do not agree with the opinion of collusion. Two working against one without others knowing at the cost of one of those players is cheating.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:44:28


Kenghis Ghan 
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Out of four players in a map-of-the-week game, 2 got booted and your only remaining opponent surrendered. What exactly do you think is report-worthy?
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:44:39


Mista Sista
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You may not like it, but those are the rules. If you are against two separate players working together to win, then create games where private messaging is turned off. This usually prevents a lot of colluding, but even so, sometimes people independently come to an unspoken agreement to work together, if it’s in their mutual interest to do so.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:45:43


JK_3 
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This is suspicious behavior, though. Both accounts are playing from the same country and were created on the same day. Chances are that this player was using two accounts.
They are both in 2 RT games rn, with the lvl 8 in 1 MD game, and the lvl 36 is in 3 MD games. They might just be 2 friends, but the lvl 36 wins a whole lot more,


I wanted to report this but would rather seek opinion and teh report button does not offer the possibility to report this but refers to a wiki page.
Given the suspicious circumstances, you could report this under the Other category. That way a moderator could check if both accounts are controlled by the same players (you only need to report one of them, not both)

I do not agree with the opinion of collusion. Two working against one without others knowing at the cost of one of those players is cheating.
Collusion is and will be an essential part of FFA's. If you do not like it, I highly recommend you stick to 1v1, 2v2 and 3v3 games, and only play games with people you trust.
Is this a cheat?: 12/17/2020 22:46:27

Hereturnsagain
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Thank You for all your opinions.

I may or may not agree with some of You but I appreciate an alternate point of view.
Is this a cheat?: 12/18/2020 03:25:50


berdan131
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Here's the explanation for colluding. In FFA often the best strategy is to finish players one by one.

So you can choose which players you are fighting. For example two weaker players not fighting and focusing on one stronger player.

Fighting everybody at once in FFA is not the best strategy usually.
Is this a cheat?: 12/18/2020 12:00:37


luftwaffle
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There are other reasons, like throwing a fit and letting someone win at the expense of another.

Point is, it's impossible to weed out even if we wanted to do that for some reason (as others pointed out, choosing your fights is an important part of playing FFA). Imagine if one could report any player who didn't play to his/her own advantage but instead to another player's. It would penalise people who collude, sure, but also people who can't really play too well and didn't realize their move was bad, or people who only made a pact with someone with the intention of betraying them later but miscalculated etc.

The best solution to not play with people who clearly collude is blacklisting them and hosting your own games which they won't be able to join.
Is this a cheat?: 12/18/2020 17:07:47

Mark-Dad-Of-Two
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My view is that it may not be cheating but if two players collude directly against one then it is a waste of time even playing.
but the world seems to be full of people who just want to win rather than enjoy the game.
the way I work is that colluding is fine as long as no communication takes place
in that way you have to hope the other player is seeing things the same way you are but it is not planned directly
anything other than that I think people should just go and play diplomacy games
Is this a cheat?: 12/20/2020 10:00:48


luftwaffle
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but the world seems to be full of people who just want to win rather than enjoy the game.


some people enjoy the game by wanting to win, you know

I get that it might be annoying and frustrating to others, but it shouldn't be regarded as "wrong". To avoid that, I suggest playing with people you know won't do that. Disabling private messages in FFA also helps to an extent
Is this a cheat?: 12/20/2020 10:12:10

baryburton
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Hello, can I ask you a question about anti game? I am bored by one person on two tournaments. And I’d like some information on the reports.
Is this a cheat?: 12/21/2020 12:31:29

Fonzie
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well acc created the same day with same flag and playing together let's say is a 99,9% multi account and should be banned by host he's the only one who can check their ip address ...having same flag if multi mean he dont use any king of proxy or vpn so it's very easy to catch

Edited 12/21/2020 12:32:14
Is this a cheat?: 12/21/2020 12:45:45

Naviiso 
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I mean, it could be same player, but who of you who started the game instantly made 2 accounts? I think it is very well possible that its 2 friends. In any case its lame as hell, playing 2v1v1 to get some wins...
Is this a cheat?: 12/21/2020 22:01:29

Mark-Dad-Of-Two
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Hey I play to win
But I would not side in a planned way against a third.
Why ?
Because they stand no chance and then we are into a two person game
IMHO just start with the challenge of the two person game.
The concept can be extended to multi player games
On a FFA if two players join up and others don't then they are highly liable to win
For me where's the challenge and fun in that
Though I know some enjoy the points more than the gameplay
Is this a cheat?: 12/21/2020 22:03:09

Mark-Dad-Of-Two
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Solution play 1v1 or one team v one team
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