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Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:14:00


[WM] Gnuffone 
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Hello WarLight community,
yes we are back to talk about the season 14. Reason? i have a news.
After i get accusated to cheated by playing 2 account, make proof one of them was played by another player, today i get messaged by a player (that prefer stay anynomous) with this link:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6208496

It's Master of Desaster (aka mod) and his alt of blitz, desi. Of course, Mod win. He chatted as well with himself.
Yes, he accused me million of times to cheat, and instead he is who played 2 account.

Funny thing is, before make the thread, i asked him an explanation about it (i have him in skype). His answer?
more or less what mod say:
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"I never wanted to cheat with desi. After i realized that joining with desi is cheating, i decided to keep playing and lose all games" (agaisnt himself and TWM, his clanamte ofc too).

so why you joined with 2 account?

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"I only had a game with myself because i tried to play fair. If i would've left the ladder after my loss vs. You you would get less points from desi"

oh thanks, so you did it for me! you played me trying to win agaisnt vs me for the same reason? =) yes, bc i played twice Mod in this season.

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"I asked 5friends and all told me that's the best way"

next time i ask the same; if is enough be supported by 5 friend.

So at the end of all, he actually played with 2 account.
Thanks for the player link me the game; without him i would never find it, bc i didn't checked any previous games of mod.

Edited 6/26/2014 18:14:43
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:22:12


[WM] Gnuffone 
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i want add, he admited he is desi.

proof desi = mod



Edited 6/26/2014 18:22:20
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:24:45


master of desaster 
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It's true i cheated that season too. I'm sorry for this but as gnuff says, i asked 5 of my best warlight friends what i should do. There were 3 options. Leaving the ladder, keep playing like there was nothing, lose all my next games or leave the ladder and report myself. I decided for the lose option, because i wanted to win that season, but also the fairest way (still) possible. I see my fault of course and excuse myself.

EDIT: I created the desi account to get the "invite a friend" achievement first. Then i used it to get more games in the 1vs1 ladder than 5. As you can see i didn't give MoD an advantage there. Desi and MoD are 1:1

Edited 6/26/2014 18:30:17
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:25:09


[WM] Gnuffone 
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and he is playing with 2 account in the ladder 1v1 as well.
Now who is the cheater?

Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:40:58


Silver 
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Pot meet kettle.
/end drama.
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:46:56


Ctrl Alt Delete ♦ …ĆeLite ♦ 
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And Cat uhmm.. CHEAT FIGHT GOGOGOGOGOGO!!!! Yea MOD you are fucked now because you aint a member
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:50:11


Mudderducker 
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Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:54:44


ChrisCMU 
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Well, we still have no proof that Gnuff cheated on ladder (him and WM mates maintain that Gnuff was not controlling that alt, Red was). We know he cheated on Clan League (with GG alt), but not for sure on ladder.
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:55:21


szeweningen 
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And a day will come when great men will fall,
memories of great warriors will turn to dust,
souls will turn to iron, spirit of battle will fade.
Only numbers will remain, not people,
savage beasts ready to devour each other.
This day is upon us...
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:57:26


[WM] Gnuffone 
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nah szew.
is differetn for me.
i didn't report MOD, i don't care about this thing. but this time i cared bc he accused me. and i find it lame.
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 18:58:51


[WM] Gnuffone 
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and i get this link :

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6477594

lol

Edited 6/26/2014 18:59:31
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 19:00:29


master of desaster 
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at least i can admit it. i'm only sad that one of my warlight friend played the Judas, but to be honest i don't care. it was bad what i did, but i did what i tought was right after gnuffone defeated me on the ladder and i recieved no trophy anyway. Think of me what you want. i just love this game and my Goal was never to manipulate the ladders. i just wanted as many very good games as possible against the best Players on the templates i like. And gnuffone, as i said. Desi and this account are 1:1 on the 1vs1 ladder now.

Edited 6/26/2014 19:01:22
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 19:02:49


[WM] Gnuffone 
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mod answer:

[21:01:38] master of desaster: it's 1vs1 there
[21:01:56] master of desaster: a loss doesn't hurt me at all with that many games

so let me know if is fair play with 2 account. bc from Tomorrow i start to do it, for the same reason. i want play more top players. =)

EDIT: sorry, i didn't see the post you write now, i was writing in skype and didn't refreshed.

Edited 6/26/2014 19:04:08
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 19:16:06

Heyheuhei 
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Such drama
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 19:23:36


Mudderducker 
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The wise man has spoken, we should leave the nonsense and watch in pity.
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 22:06:28


Bananashake 
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You know that you made this thread because of a few points in last season, that didn't even matter in the end, right? I guess i would understand if this gave him 1st, BUT WHEN IT DIDN'T!!!


Now who is the cheater?

Me! It's me! Pick me!
Season 14: The End: 6/26/2014 22:26:51


ChrisCMU 
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To me it doesn't matter IF two accounts on the same ladder did or did not alter the final standings (I don't see how it could not as each account is effecting each game, and thus rankings for all players each player matched against...and on down the line like a tree branching out). The main thing is that it is forbidden and should not be done.

If I joined the ladder by mistake with two accounts, I would immediately leave the ladder and perhaps find someone else to play the other account. That way integrity is held.

Edited 6/26/2014 22:27:33
Season 14: The End: 6/27/2014 00:15:27


Bananashake 
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If I joined the ladder by mistake with two accounts, I would immediately leave

Stop it chris, we all know your secrets.
Season 14: The End: 6/27/2014 06:06:41


Krzysztof 
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that's exactly why Gnuff should be banned
Season 14: The End: 6/27/2014 13:59:17


Vulpes
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By default, I win season 14. Tiebreaker rules: If first and second don't deserve it, give it to the guy whose name is in the template.

Edited 6/27/2014 14:04:02
Season 14: The End: 6/28/2014 16:28:54


UltraLawlz
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Why does everyone keep using alts to join the ladders? Are alts superior to mains?
Season 14: The End: 7/2/2014 17:07:53


ChrisCMU 
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I know of at least another player with two accounts on the 1v1 ladder at the same time.

When are we going to do anything about this cheating?
Season 14: The End: 7/2/2014 17:12:58


Master Potato
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nauzhror?
Season 14: The End: 7/2/2014 17:21:25


ps 
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i wish gnuffone got as riled up to stop his cheating habits instead of exposing others as cheaters. just because other people do it, doesn't mean it's ok. and let's face it, if high profile players get caught and get away with it, the others just think it's ok.

maybe fizzer could invent a "never caught cheating" badge that everyone gets by default, and gets taken away when people get caught. also a game creation option to not allow these people in games/tournaments by default.
Season 14: The End: 7/2/2014 17:23:44


slammy 
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@ps, or more like:

Season 14: The End: 7/2/2014 17:36:51


lawm 
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I have 2 players on nearly all ladders and have never tried to hide it. This account and freire (Pedagogy of the Oppressed, a great read if you get a chance). I originally got the second account to play 2v2 with another of my roommates but consequently joined the other ladders due to lack of games. I've always been in 5 games at a time but due to slower players, their right, and stallers, a large problem, I decided to join the other 2 ladders. The rules state to not operate 2 accounts in a manner that would give me an advantage on a ladder. My 2 accounts have so many unexpired games that when they are matched up, it hardly effects either rating. (that might be 'affect' I never know). I'm open to listening and will remove freire if enough people are offended by it.

freire http://warlight.net/Profile?p=2027580034
Season 14: The End: 7/3/2014 04:42:06


ChrisCMU 
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IMO, there should never be a person controlling two accounts on a ladder at the same time, unless on the same team. The rules are a bit vague, but should be explained more.
Season 14: The End: 7/3/2014 08:17:28


ps 
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even on same team i find it lame.
Season 14: The End: 7/3/2014 08:27:00


[WM] Gnuffone 
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a lot of player played the 2v2 ladder with himself, admitting clearly he was doing that, so i don't think is against the rule.

anyway, since in 2v2 ladder is a disadvantage play without a real teamamte, i don't think it matter. If i am not wrong, many player tried it, but only summer didn't get bored and she played till she reach #1 (during 2013 i think).

Sze, me, gui, jsa (?) and few more in the pasts are all failed, most of them stopped after 6/7 games.
I really believe, you have a big handicap playing with yourself in this template..

Edited 7/3/2014 08:27:36
Season 14: The End: 7/3/2014 08:36:30


ps 
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lol Gnuffone, you always say playing with 2vs2 with yourself is better, and now you're saying the opposite just couz it's the ladder? there is atleast one obvious advantage: your teammate never gets booted while you're active, while everyone else has to deal with that as being part of the game.
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