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World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:27:22


Kenny • apex 
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http://WarLight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?TemplateID=230279

A: Germany
B: Japan
C: Vichy France
D: Italy
E: Finland
F: England
G: USA
H: Canada
I: Russia
J: China
K: British Africa
L: Free France
M: Pan-America
N: Commonwealth of Australia

Alright, I'm working on this template, and I'm opening up people to make their own variations. First and foremost: The bonuses are nearly balanced, I'll be releasing an updated copy over the weekend with balanced bonuses.

What I need help with: How many armies do I put on the frontlines?

Do I go with the historical perspective? In terms of quality of troops, obviously not quantity. (Russia would steamroll everything)

Or a more balanced approach? I'm not sure so I'm leaving it up to you guys. Since this isn't a map, I put it in general.

I want to later do a tournament for this template, so as soon as the tweaks are done, I'll be announcing that.

I have a game going right now with the current template, it has not started so if you want in I'll kick someone who hasn't joined for you instead. Have fun!

-Lolowut
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:34:16


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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well since there was no real territory that free france occupied where will it go and the vichy had very frew supporters i would just make it all equall
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:36:49


Kenny • apex 
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Technically, France owned more than just the country France, it owned Central Africa and some islands. Since Germany/Japan never really took down these areas, psuedo-France governments kept control to fight them.

Vichy France is just the name for Nazi-occupied France. Since Hitler didn't rule over it directly. Technically it was only France, and the African holds were German, however, it doesn't make sense to give Germany North Africa.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:38:38


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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nobody should own north africa just make eygypt its own country then make north africa one third british one third french and one thrird german
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:40:45


Kenny • apex 
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Italy had a strong hold on Libya, and the Germans had control over North Africa in 1942. The British had control over Egypt and parts of the mid east, (partly how their borders ended up drawn btw.)
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:49:15


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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here is how i would do the territories
1- russia
2- german controlled scandinavia
3- free scandinavia
4- united kingdom
5- germany
6-france
7- portugal
8- neutral spain
9- italy
10- neutral swiss
11- greece
12- balkan territories
13- eygypt
14- libya
15-algeria/morrocco
16- china
17-japanese empire
18- free china
19- french indochina
20- british india
21- australia
22- south american neutrals
23- mexico/ america
24- canada
25-ethipoia
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 21:59:17


Kenny • apex 
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A lot of those countries could be eliminated in 1 turn. Also, how do I justify allowing countries in Africa when they did absolutely nothing to change status quo, and were occupied by more important countries that fought? Also, where would you draw the border for Free China and China without underpowering the region to the point Japan could take it in 2-3 turns?

Also, What's the point in Greece/Balkan Territories if Germany had clear dominance in terms of army surrounding them? What's the point in Free Scand and German Scand when German Scand had no solid government, even set up by the Germans, and Free Scand would consist of Sweden, considering that Finland played a big enough role to be considered valid in the war? (Finland decimated Russian invaders)

Also, French Indochina was highly susceptible to the Japan Empire, and free indochina basically did not exist.

The Pan American Union did support America in the war, albeit probably not directly through troops (I need to check that) but there was definitely a lot of trading going on only to USA. To not represent them would be pretty detrimental.

Why would Portugal be on the map if Portugal would force Spain not to have a bonus? And why is Portugal even relevant?
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 22:00:11

Darth Mylor {Warlighter}
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interesting...i can you invite me to this? (please make me either germany, U.S.A, or soviet russia.)
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/11/2012 22:02:40


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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portugal if you look it up was a huge ally of the english and those territories that seem stupid would fill up a very small map and create odd twists to a game people would think irrelevand a large reason italy lost is because it soent billions fighting the ethiopians
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 02:16:19

bunes 
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Are you thinking of making this a ffa game, or a XvX team game?
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 02:17:32


Master ARC 
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Sounds really good
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 03:05:05


Kenny • apex 
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Mylor: Sure thing

Hell Bender: Like I said, without giving Portugal full control over Spain, it makes no sense. Also, "During World War II, the Portuguese Republic was an authoritarian political regime under António de Oliveira Salazar and the Estado Novo, often regarded as pro-fascist. Although Portugal was officially a neutral country, it exported goods to the Allies as well as Germany and other neutral countries.[1] The most exported goods were sugar, tobacco, and tungsten." - Wikipedia. I'm sure there's more accurate accounts but Portugal balanced out their trading from my understanding between Allies and Axis. Any "neutral" country that did not pick a side, and better yet traded to BOTH sides shouldn't be considered on the map. Not to mention, the point of your statement about Italy sending to Ethiopia was completely torn together by the "billions" you claim they sent. I would think Ethiopia played somewhat of a role, but I feel that it was the climate that killed the Italians, just as the climate killed the Germans in Russia. I can't replicate climate on a strat game.

bunes: It's made to be an Allies vs Axis game.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 06:12:42


hedja 
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Lol, instead of linking the template, could you link the game that is underway? as from there you can see the custoim scenario, i dont know hot to from the create game section.
I'll do it as well, it sounds interesting.
Hellbender, portugal's role was minuscule, and anyway i think they were fascist, as Spain and Portugal as usually similar in everything, and because of Franco Spain was definitely pro - Facist :D
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 07:06:09


The Ice Fire Juggernaut
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Can i join the game
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 13:01:19


Kenny • apex 
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hedja: The custom scenario is in the template, you just have to look for it. And you're also right. Portugal was more pro-facist but officially remained neutral.

Zxeta: Sure when I get home.(on phone atm)
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 16:08:44


Ironheart
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Can i join the game.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 16:28:56


Askingforit138
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Can I join as well? Axis power please.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 16:40:40

Grzechooo 
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I'd like to join the game, somewhere on the axis side if possible.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 18:15:03


Kenny • apex 
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No space on axis, once I make a more updated version I'll make another game though and you could get on Axis that game
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 19:21:32


Ironheart
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I WILL LIKE AXIS IN NEXT VERSION.
Sorry about caps.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 19:22:03


Kenny • apex 
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Evil people >.>
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 19:57:04


hedja 
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Lol, not sure if you saw that i wanted in as well :D dont't care ab out which side, i'll win nonetheless :P
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 20:00:23


Gnullbegg 
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I could decline and let someone take over the Vichy spot. Because I don't like my Vichy.
Would that be possible?
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 20:02:59


Accept my Surrender
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Ill take that spot if needed.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 20:27:28


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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I'll go India.
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 20:42:48

[WG] Reza
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no space for me?
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/12/2012 21:09:08

Cephistokles
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liked to join
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/13/2012 03:26:17


Kenny • apex 
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World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/13/2012 17:30:06


Najdorf
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Germany easily had the strongest and highest quality of troops by far. Russia would be the lowest. The allies really did not have troops of great quality and niether did japan but that was really leadership and technology. Italian troops im not too familiar with but I might place them with americans. romanians were small in number. theres so much to discuss
World War 2: 1942 scenario: 10/13/2012 20:41:51


Freedom Crusader 
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pliz invite me to the next game.

axis or allies dosent matter.
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