I figured this would help people who care about who the original great players were and who's been good more recently too...I compiled a list of the teams in the 2v2 Ladder that were ranked #1, as well as for how long...Here it is:
1. 4/30/11-5/1/11 Raginpikey and Nuckluck
2. 5/02/11-5/22/11 Ruthless and Duke
3. 5/23/11-5/25/11 fatguyinalittlecoat and bostonfred
4. 5/26/11-6/28/11 Ruthless and Duke
5. 6/28/11-7/14/11 Blue Precision and Eitz
6. 7/15/11-7/18/11 Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina
7. 7/19/11-7/20/11 Blue Precision and Eitz
8. 7/21/11-7/28/11 Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina
9. 7/29/11-8/04/11 Blue Precision and Eitz
10. 8/05/11-8/17/11 Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina
11. 8/18/11-8/20/11 Blue Precision and Eitz
12. 8/21/11-8/30/11 Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina
13. 8/31/11-9/04/11 Blue Precision and Eitz
14. 9/05/11-9/05/11 Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina
15. 9/06/11-9/06/11 Blue Precision and Eitz
16. 9/07/11-10/04/11 Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina
17. 10/05/11-10/09/11 denzyman and Gui
18. 10/10/11-10/13/11 FBG Dragons and FBG Gaspumper
19. 10/14/11-11/18/11 denzyman and Gui
20. 11/19/11-11/19/11 zaeban and Oliebol
21. 11/20/11-11/24/11 denzyman and Gui
22. 11/25/11-1/02/12 zaeban and Oliebol
23. 1/03/12-1/03/12 FBG Dragons and FBG Gaspumper
24. 1/04/12-1/15/12 zaeban and Oliebol
25. 1/16/12-1/20/12 Chaos and V
26. 1/21/12-1/21/12 pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz
27. 1/22/12-3/21/12 unknownsoldier and Gui
28. 3/22/12-4/04/12 Samurai and Heyheuhei
29. 4/05/12-5/20/12 unknownsoldier and Gui
30. 5/21/12-5/24/12 pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz
31. 5/25/12-5/28/12 unknownsoldier and Gui
32. 5/29/12-5/29/12 pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz
33. 5/30/12-6/29/12 dunga and Heyheuhei
34. 6/30/12-7/26/12 pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz
35. 7/27/12-7/27/12 dunga and Heyheuhei
36. 7/28/12-7/28/12 pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz
37. 7/29/12-9/10/12 Ruthless Bastard and Grinche
38. 9/11/12-9/13/12 dunga and Heyheuhei
39. 9/14/12-9/23/12 Luxis and Frankdeslimste
40. 9/24/12-9/26/12 Ruthless Bastard and Grinche
41. 9/27-12-Present Idfdoggy and [WM]Blue

How many days has each team been ranked #1?
1. unknownsoldier and Gui -110
2. Heyheuhei and Monsenhor Chachina -64
3. Ruthless and Duke -55
4. Zaeban and Oliebol -52
5. Ruthless Bastard and Grinche -47
6. denzyman and Gui -44
7. Blue Precision and Eitz -35
8. dunga and Heyheuhei -35
9. pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz -34
10. Samurai and Heyheuhei -14
11. Luxis and Frankdeslimste -10
12. FBG Dragons and FBG Gaspumper -5
13. Chaos and V -5
14. Raginpikey and NuckLuck -2
15. Idfdoggy and [WM]Blue -2

I think it is hard to argue that unknownsoldier and Gui have been the best 2v2 ladder team on warlight for the time they were playing. Congrats to everyone on this list though :) You have to be a very good player to get on here :)

I plan on doing this for the 1v1 Ladder as well.

Man thank you for what you did!
I think it is a nice improvement to Warlight:)

Shouldn't somebody be keeping track of this stuff on the wiki?

There is very few records on the wiki but i am now putting this stuff onto the wiki

There we go its now on the wiki.

I would like to see the statistics of games against 1st places holders.
me and hhh are 7-1 in that matter, probably in first place.


I do see me and HHH the more solid 2v2 team, and I say that by how we played, and how we dominate many aspects of the game when playing other good teams.

Of course we also loose, and that 3 defeats in a row in a bad week put us a little behind, but still I think ingame our results against the other top teams are very good.

dunga, I can look through these 15 teams and see how they did against other #1 teams I guess...I'll also do that for the 1v1 Ladder.

Heyheuhei and dunga 5-1
Idfdoggy and [WM]Blue 1-0
Ruthless Bastard and Grinche 1-1
Luxis and Frankdeslimste 0-2
fatguyinalittlecoat and bostonfred 2-3
Blue Precision and Eitz 5-9
Ruthless and Duke 3-8
Raginpikey and Nuckluck 12-10
unknownsoldier and Gui 4-4
denzyman and Gui 5-4
pwn Martin and pwn Trackerz 6-7
Monsenhor Chachina and Heyheuhei 8-3
Chaos and V 3-2
FBG Dragons and FBG Gaspumper 11-8
Samurai and Heyheuhei 2-2
Zaeban and Oliebol 3-8

These stats might have 1-2 small mistakes but this is the best I could come up with for it.

I also realized I forgot to add fatguyinalittlecoat and bostonfred to the list above of days being ranked #1. They have 3 and are in 14th place in that category.

be sure to see if players are booted. zaeban was booted a lot. imp got booted a bunch. a few of those games he was going to lose. most never even started. recently i was booted from two games. one i had a 35% chance to win but probably was going to lose. the other i was going to win, which is annoying bc it allowed two people to get the top spot.

on a related note: in a membership 3v3 myhand got booted after the winning turn and the opponents took the win as if they earned it. apparently one of them even bragged about it, saying they won. it's sometimes annoying to play. get booted when winning on the ladder and notable wins make it seem like you got outplayed. goof around in real-time and people put the game up as a favorite.

I don't have the time to go through each game to look to see if a player was booted though...But if someone else wants to, that would be a better representation.

That sucks for myhand...Who ended up winning the tournament then? And myhand got a membership now anyways from Salah so it isn't as big of a deal but that's still dirty play by the people who beat him.

Use multiaccounts to play real-time games for fun...That way no one knows who you are unless you tell them. That's what I usually do.

dunga, if you catch me real-time sometime next week with HHH also online please invite me and Kage to a series of 2vs2 games.

usually i do too. it's double elimination. so we're still alive. just have to play more games.

Dunga: "I would like to see the statistics of games against 1st places holders.
me and hhh are 7-1 in that matter, probably in first place."

Too bad Luxis got booted in our game, I was sure we were gonna win before that. But I do agree that you 2 are a real solid 2v2 team.

dunga, 7-1 is 5-1 and frank makes it seem like it should be 4-2. you encouraged me to rejoin the ladder as denzyman and myself, since i'm not satisfied with my two games with you two: as myself/denzyman, luck of picks determined the game; with unknown, busy schedules and growing indifference to the ladder led to poor (read 'no') communication during the picking stage. me: "why did you pick that, unknown?" unknown: "i wanted you to change your picks but i made mine too late and didn't want to bother risking a boot by trying to communicate with you."

it's easy to 'dominate' if the opponents don't cooperate or the computer system gives you an advantage.

Go go, Gui!
Real denzyman supports you! :)

Anyone wants to start betting? About a week ago I was asked about best 2vs2 ladder team and since Monsenhor quit and myhand/Salah do not play 2vs2 ladder I was quite confident Gui/denzyman was the potential #1, go prove me right Gui :)

any top teams want to increase your game count? i need a second game

well, i am kind of embaressed really by my misscounting.
I counted the number of tabs i had open very quickly, clearly i coudnt trust myself with this method and should've double checked. I would not want to enhance a statistic that could easily be checked.

The game against frank and luxis was not in a final stage for them, was playable for more turns, was not gg for them.

And if any of you wants a match with 2 accounts is not the same as playing against a team, i would accept with accounts of my own.


and Empyrean, you waste too many lines trying to give excuses that only matter to you, being a good communicator or not, having a trustfull partner or not, or having luck or not is part of the game, because in the end, after playing enough games, who is best is the one winning more.

For instance I think if anyone thinks of himself of the best 1v1 player I would say he have to prove himself against Szeweningen, because in my view he has the best results in the past months.


So, how we going to settle this dispute?
4 teams playing 3 games against each other?

me and HHH
gui and denzyman?
szewening/myhand/salah?
who will be in the 4th team?

That's a good idea dunga...Perhaps Luxis and Frankdeslimste for the 4th team?

i made a tournament bc myhand said he wants to practice the 2v2 ladder. either he will join my team or szewn can (he also wants to practice). that tournament is for myhand, not anyone's hubris.

regarding the 'dispute': the ladder templates are very luck dependent. so there is no way to figure out which team is best in a short time. sample sizes are and will probably always be too low. teams come and go. motivation, focus and interest rise and fall. i joined the ladder to increase one sample size. if you feel you have something to prove, make a tournament. the best ladder settings 2v2 teams i've watched play are v and chaos, the fbgs, the pwns and monsehnor/hhh. get v/chaos and the pwns (fbgs won't, the template bores them) into multiple RRs with other top ladder and non-ladder teams and the results would speak for themselves. but since the template isn't the best 2v2 template and the map is overplayed, i doubt anyone is interested except you and me.

until then we only have subjective arguments and the occasional pride-driven insult. but that can be fun too. i for one like to see the fiery dunga bubble to the surface to see what you really think. too many players here hide behind anonymous accounts and are still too timid to speak their minds. maybe they need to wear masks while using anonymous accounts to have more courage.