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What am I missing with army camps?: 9/19/2020 15:40:44

ThePirateSheep
Level 11
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I’m currently on “The siege of Feldmere”, and I just don’t understand the balance of army camps. I’ve been upgrading the camps whenever I could, including selling crafted items and whatnot, and I currently only make 5.3k armies a second. I’m 78% of the way through the map, and have already collected every single treasure chest tile by only hitting the chest tiles over and over since some cost 300m+.

So right now I get somewhere around 20 million armies an hour, and I STILL HAVE multiple 200m+ tiles to conquer, not to mention 30 more tiles that require 20+ million each...

I saw this in a different thread talking about the new revision: “The goal is for mercenaries to be about 25% of your armies, caches to be 20-25%, and army camps the rest.”

And while that might be true, the only reason I can see it being true is that they lowered mercs and caches, and at that point the only other way is army camps.
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/19/2020 16:27:06

Fizzer 
Level 61

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I can see your version of that level is revision 5, i.e. the old version of that level, since you started it before the recent update. You'll find in the new version of the level army camps are more valuable.
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/19/2020 18:26:12

Sasquatch Bohogotot 
Level 57
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Yes, I have noticed the update will start for you when you start a new map. I feel a totally free AP reset is needed for all of us due to all the updates we have suggested. Also keeping all our purchased Bonus AP.
If we all start to ask, maybe they will consider it?
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/19/2020 18:30:22


krinid 
Level 60
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They = Fizzer

However ... if he's addressing all the things we say need fixing, do we actually need it?

Though on the reverse side, something of that nature like 1 free level of Stats, or a a free AP reset would be a nice bonus to Beta users. Who effectively also Beta testers. We get early access to the game in exchange for providing feedback to shape its future, so some mild bonus like that would be a nice gesture.

Although ... it's more important that Fizzer continues to actively put our feedback into the game. And I think he is throughout the various iterations. Not always in the way we want it ... LOL ... but I think it is getting better. Interested to see the "new version" but currently stuck in the middle of Triskelion, so will be a while before I see it.
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/19/2020 21:05:00

ThePirateSheep
Level 11
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I ended up abandoning both that quest and the other one that I was doing to restart it. I’m a little worried because the regions that used to give 4K, 6k, and 11k money per second are now replaced with a one time chest..... but we will see
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/19/2020 21:09:47


krinid 
Level 60
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I was worried about stuff like (something that used to be there now missing) until I read Fizzer's note on the rebalancing, and that it's just an algorithm to create the map contents based on a preset duration to finish. So if something is missing, it means something else is there to compensate.

And if it's still not right, he'll adjust, rebalance, try again. You may get temporarily shafted by having a poor run at a map that ends up not being great in its current iteration ... but eventually it'll end up being right. Where "right" = how Fizzer intended it to be - and hopefully that's also "good" and "fun" (else we have a problem/misalignment).
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/20/2020 23:05:48

ThePirateSheep
Level 11
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I’ve spent just over a day on the level again, and it already seems to be slower than the previous go at it. I’ve already emptied all of the merc camps I’ve found, and I’m on 1.2k gps and 1.2k aps, but I’m already running into areas that would require 10+ hours of army just for one capture. And that’s with 90% army boost from the AP (every point went into it so far).

It’s just disheartening. I’ll log in after 2 hours, capture two or three small areas, upgrade one army camp to get 100 more a second, and then rinse and repeat. Not even 50% through the map so far, and the amount of “big bonuses” that have been replaced by caches or mines is ridiculous, it’s every single one. I don’t know if it’s truly random, but the lack of big goals to work towards doesn’t help either. I count 5 small regions that have a bonus of 1k, and everything else is below that. Contrast that with the previous version, where there was multiple 4K big bonuses, 6k, 11k, and even some of the smaller bonuses were 2k.

I do notice that one of the boats went from I believe 25m to 6.4m to capture, so I know that some of the rates were lowered, but it just feels the army gain rates and money gain rates were lowered by even more
What am I missing with army camps?: 9/23/2020 04:31:05

ThePirateSheep
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So before the update, I was roughly 2 days into the siege map, and got to like 75% before I hit a hard wall and restarted it hoping the new revision would be better.

I’m now more than 4 days in, farther back than I was on the previous map, no merc camps available, and losing interest. I can wait 10 hours for gold to increase my mercs by 100/s, so I can wait 4 hours to unlock a 40 mil territory that just unlocks another 40 mil or 80 mil territory.

Army camps just seem so underpowered still, and spending 250m gold (10 hours worth) to go from 612/s to 740/s just feels bad :/
What am I missing with army camps?: 10/13/2020 09:13:37

pasterma
Level 57
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Actualli i am encoutering the same feeling as The Pirateshee...

i dont in which version i am playing ( on a home pc) but on Feldemere i am on the island trying to climb to the fortress where i need
68M + 54M + 60M +62M + 78M and then there are almost 10 territories in a fog which i presumm will cost heundred and hundreds of armies...

with an income of 6.47 armies per second, maybe i will finish in 10/15 days...
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