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Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 17:30:35


The Fire_mad32 Juggernaut (Away from game)
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Wondering and thinking about this with a mate :), and wondered if everyone else thought the same as us... so thought I'd brainstorm it ;)... so What makes a good clan?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 17:56:19


Mudderducker 
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Organisation, good recruitment plan, friendly members and a good name. There are some more......................
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 18:01:57


hedja 
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The players and nothing else
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 19:06:22


Ironheart
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Just do the opposite of the list below

How to be a bad clan
1. give it a bad name. check
2.A bad leader most preferably low stats especial 1v1. check
3.Decline good players. check
4.Be an elitist clan when you desperately need members. check
5.Spam the forums. Check
6.Have a website or blog no one cares about or vist.check
6.reject criticism and take it as an insult.check
7.Have no or low members.check
8.The leader must have a multi account who is also counted as part of the clan. check
9.Post the same clan list without any updates
10.Do nothing in your clan
11.Mutiny:When you have done this all soon or letter a faction of your clan will split and you will claim they a subdivision or your recruitment office takes over or your leader comes back and kicks a heck load of players out.check
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 21:59:55


Komrade Karl
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LOL, good one Ironheart. Sure made my day, apart from all those arguments I've gotten myself into. My take on a good clan is a clan where all members are treated equally, of course.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 22:30:18


{rp} hay 
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A good clan is happy with itself and does not care about the opinions of outsiders
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 22:44:13


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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I agree with Hejda
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 22:44:30


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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hedja*
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/10/2012 23:42:55


[WM] Anonymous 
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Everybody here is veery good to criticize, especially Ironhart.
Why don't you try to build up a clan and make it as the opposite of your funny list? We'll talk after 20 days when you will change your name back without the tag.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 15:23:58


{RSP} Nike
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agree with red... its easier said than done, ironheart
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 16:13:32


Ironheart
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@Komrade Karl
Originally posted on this thread by me before you joined warlight in the days when bad clans boasted their 3 man clan(i think).Also there some jokes you might not have got since they were based on events that happened before you joined so just search for unbeaten and wm kicking out members or wm split or something closeor wm members quiting.
http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=4047
@Red
I agree it is easier said than done but the mistake most clans not taken seriously do is not try and do a lot of them or work towards it and also the leaders try and do everyting alone.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 16:39:38


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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well warlighters doesn't

we are steadily improving the website, and tryout system

and i dont do everything alone, other members have jobs and i may be implementing a poll system on decisions soon
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 17:32:38


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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Iron heart: 4.Be an elitist clan when you desperately need members.

Out of curoisity are you saying that only large elitist clans are good? what is wrong with small elitist clans?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 17:40:54

m99!platypus
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Aggressive.

you don't need to worry about this elite clan nonsense. Your clan is not elite.

It is just a bad clan.

Aggressive you have checked off boxes: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 (I corrected for ironhearts numbers)

3. I dont think any good players would want to join (so you're safe there)

6. I dont know if you have a website or not.

10. You could start posting your roster, might be amusing to see who else belongs.

12. If I'm lucky before I retire Nike will command RSP.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 18:41:29


Pink 
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tahts a bit of a continuation of the other discussion: does it make sense to have clans?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 18:48:52


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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thanks for posting in your 2 cents regents/platypus lol
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 18:49:19


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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wheres the other thread at ineffable
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:05:38


Ironheart
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Am not saying small elitist clans or that big elitist threads are good am just saying if you want more members then becoming an elitist clan is not the fastest way to get more members since most good player don't join just any clan or none also i was making a joke when arun decided to make warlighters an semi-elitist or was it elitist clan.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:22:02


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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Im going to have to agree what makes a good clan is overall the players. but it can also depend on what your going for..

REGL & VIW is clearly about having many players so that you can always have a friend to play with and probably i suspect to help new players get better. and if those are their main goals they have done very well.

i think MC CPU warlighters and dragons are just about having generally reliable players and they have done very well id like to say that i have a few Warlighter members on my blasklist for not bein booted instead of surrenders but i dont know if they are true Warlighters so i dont want to point my finger i havent checked out the clan roster and it seems their is many clan imposters out their

and WM elite RSP are more elitist tipe clans.

i dont think their really is a way to have clans really be better than others since their is no way for clans to be officially accepted in War-light so it all depends on what the players in the clan wish to do with their title. i believe a good clan is an active clan. i used to be in VIW but i wanted to leave because their was nothing to really participate in as a team aside from the occasional 3v3. but they are still a very respectable clan in my opinion


Ineffable: tahts a bit of a continuation of the other discussion: does it make sense to have clans?

i think it does make sence to have clans just because of the amount of players out their that continously join and leave games without even playing the first move quit/surrender early or make no effort to function as a team in team games. i know it doesnt take a clan to make a player make an effort to play as a team but genrall from what ive seen clan members work together

and i guess i will respond to platy...

RSP being a bad clan is quite opiniated so ill skip that

all the players inside RSP are decent players

i cant imagine why youd want to see our roster but if it is important it shouldnt be to hard ill make a thread for it if anyone else is that interested in seeing who else has earned the RSP logo


and i dunno what to say about the nike section lol do you have a thing for him?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:46:16

m99!platypus
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for Ironhearts points I will demonstrate the validity of each.


1. give it a bad name. check
- RSP, Names may be opinionated, but this is a bad name.

2.A bad leader most preferably low stats especial 1v1. check
- Aggressive king of fools

3.Decline good players. ?
- Don't know who applied

4.Be an elitist clan when you desperately need members. check
- You just referenced yourself as elite when very clearly none of your players fit this bill.

5.Spam the forums. Check
- Haven't seen a nonsense thread yet where you're not leading the charge.

6.Have a website or blog no one cares about or vist. ?
- Don't know.

7.reject criticism and take it as an insult.check
- This is for sure.

8.Have no or low members.check
- i think your numbers are low

9.The leader must have a multi account who is also counted as part of the clan. check
- We surely can't forget the fiasco where you made us all think you and quick learner "were not" the same person.

10.Post the same clan list without any updates - ?
- gather you may start doing this.

11.Do nothing in your clan
- in fairness most clans dont do anything.

12.Mutiny:When you have done this all soon or letter a faction of your clan will split and you will claim they a subdivision or your recruitment office takes over or your leader comes back and kicks a heck load of players out.
- Crosses fingers, Lets go NIKE!

I think if you are going to reference elite clans your order should go something like this: Apex, WM, AHoL, Elite, ... warlighters ... coldblood... RSP. You surely are not elite.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:48:21


Ironheart
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Well also how good a clan depends which type it is.
types of clans have seen
Quantity Clans/Community-clans that focus mainly on getting a lot of players or building a huge community e.g regl viw
Quality/Elitist-Clans that focus mainly on player skills e.g apex ahol rp elite
Semi-Elistist-Average clan on warlight with requirements that the average player can meet warlighters mc
Regional Clans-Clans that are for people who live in a certain region e.g yanshou(chinese characters)
Training Clans-Ones which train players e.g x
Troll Clan-Clans which are made by trolls used to troll the forum e.g coldblood m99 unbeaten
Stage Clans-clans which are made when a player is in stage when they want a clan but stage clans become either fully inactive or they remain one member forever
close friends Clans-for just friends rp apex ahol LDD
Clan Disclaimers-they claim they are not clans but operate same way x FBG 101st regiment
Interest clan-Clans who are a clan united by one common interest for example like football FBG

depending on which category you clan is in you have different things to do become good.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:55:48


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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ah that's what i was trying to say and im not trying to be mean to Arun but i thouht Warlighters was a "community clan"
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:55:59


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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am i mistaken?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 19:59:46


Ironheart
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Well warlighters is a mix of semi-elitist which are average clans with requirements and a community clan.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 20:15:06

m99!platypus
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clown clan - RSP
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 20:26:02


Pink 
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ironheart: "warlighters is a mix of semi-elitist which are average clans".... r we talking about the same clan?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 20:46:25


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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whats their initiation test for Warlighters?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 20:50:32


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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This cool i got my own personal troll top that REGL john mine not only follows me in the forumn but games i play and host! but M99 could you keep your trolling to me and not my other members in my clan since you dont know them?
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 21:29:02


Bigby 
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Referring back to page 1 hey said "A good clan is happy with itself and does not care about the opinions of outsiders"--- Nailed it.
While I have never been the best player in whichever clan I was part of (WM or CPU), I most certainly can lay claim to being the most reliable. Each of us play this game for different reasons- some for fun (me), some for distraction, and some as an outlet for a competitive spirit. Whatever the underlying motivation- when you join a game I consider that a commitment to your teammates, unless of course it is a 1v1.
@ineffable- the purpose of a clan (at least ours) is garnering reliable teammates. If I join a game with other CPUers I know that there is a greater than 90% chance no one will get booted, and that I won't be playing with a total noob. I don't mind getting beaten, in fact sometimes it is fun to see another team that plays at an ultra high level, but losing cuz your teammate(s) went AI just sux. The rest- clan wars, etc... is just gravy.
This is kinda crossing over into the other clan thread. But I will also add there is another benefit. While it is true that virtually anything that can be accomplished within the confines of a clan can also be done outside of that structure- you can find someone you really gel with that you may never had opportunity to "start a game with" in the general community. There is also a sharing of ideas/strategy that is not freely given in normal gameplay.
That being said it is not for everybody- some are too individualistic to "compromise" their identity- but for others it is just another level to the game that makes it even more enjoyable.
Brainstorming Again: What makes a good clan?: 9/11/2012 21:30:25


Ironheart
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@ineffible semi-elitist is what every average clan are since they do have requirement which is beating one of their players so that makes them a semi-elitist/average clan.
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