I broke a truce with a player, and I didn't tell him. I had no other way to expand, but I still feel bad. What should I have done?

If it is not established at the beginning that it is a 2 turn notice or something then i believe it is okay

FFA treaties don't really exist. i find it fun to truce with people then turn around and attack them in the same turn it effective and funny. this is probably the reason i lose most of my free for all games though.

I did it to Moros and he blacklisted me v_v

its also fun to join autogames and try and strike truces with your oponent. claim the nuetrals are very strong and theyre about to overrun you or something

It´s a game, play with whatever standards you like. Moros is weird about it, and gets rather aggressive about the issue, but there´s no need to worry about it - Some people like to get angry over games.

Personally, I think that anything that annoys Moros is usually a good thing, so your behaviour was correct.

It is a fine line, the tactical advantages of breaking a truce, and keeping a good reputation to making them in the beginning.

If you feel bad you probably shouldn't have done it, but there is always a risk of that happening in an FFA, no matter what the terms of the truce are.

I keep it my rule to respect my truces and if they are a 1 turn truce or a 2 turn truce abide by it. It there are none of those preset conditions i usually say that i no longer want the truce at the beginning of the turn (1 or 2 times i have done that in the last 5 seconds of the turn so my opponent cant change his turn hehe)

oh and incase im not sure of my opponent respecting the truce, i put big stacks behind the border :)

I always make the other player agree on a turn warning before breaking the truce, and sometimes also on no-troops on mutual borders.
So if you agreed on these therms and then broke it, I'll just blacklist you, it's not a big deal, it just means I don't want to play with you anymore.

Exactly....accepting truces in a FFA generally is a bad idea because in terms of trust, you can't trust anyone.

I used to get really angry when someone backstabbed me in a FFA, but now, since it's all part of the game, I just smile....and blacklist the person.

Another reason treaties are unstable is because when the person surrenders and turns into an AI, the truce is not withheld which annoys me...becuase I get my bonus cut down from lack of AI not knowing what else to do.

I generally would like 1 turn notice...but if you don't....not my problem.

|> Another reason treaties are unstable is because when the person surrenders and turns into an AI, the truce is not withheld which annoys me...becuase I get my bonus cut down from lack of AI not knowing what else to do.

This. I'm playing FFA on USA Big, and person I was truced (with like 800 income) with turned into AI. :(

I don't have any problem with breaking truce, although I rarely if ever do it myself, I would simply use it to form an opinion of the player and their playing style.

There's a diplomacy card for this purpose in Warlight in case any of you are not aware, if it's not available in the particular match you're in then you're not supposed to be able to do it. It's all well and good making a verbal agreement with someone and even moreso if you're both able to stick to it, but it's by no means absolute.

WhenI play on a ffa, usualy the only time I break a truce is if I either have no more room to expand, or if need to go somewhere. I actualy don't mind if someone breaks a truce. In real life wars, people don't say they are going to break a truce.

Oh i like to suicide into backstabbers and ruin their chance of winning always works.

Actauly i rarely break truces. Usualy i would wait until he dies then kill the invader when hes unprepared. I just wait for the events to play out and then i strike. Which is why I usualy go to the top 3 in a 24 ffa match.

I with Ironheart and Reza on this one. Sometimes I even get an unspoken truce with someone (you don't attack me, I don't attack you), but these are very risky.

Breaking a truce is okay, but you have to have a tactical reason to do it, and ensure that you breaking the truce will pay off.

In a FFA, if you go 100% head to head with the first person that you meet, (depending on specifics of size of map, turn you encounter, number of players, etc) you will lose. The best case scenario is that you break his only bonus, you have a bonus, and can quickly put him away so you can restart your expansion and not be too far behind by the time you reach your next opponent. That is rare, and you'll probably endlessly fight each other while everyone else expands and you've both lost.

So, Truces (or non-aggression pacts) are essential when you encounter someone early. But you need to know how far you can trust it. If you're meeting at bottlenecks, and each of you have 15 armies at the bottleneck and base income is only in the low 20's, you're probably okay just leaving your armies at a standoff.

It gets trickier when you can easily be flanked, or overcome by a single turn of armies deployed.

Eventually, you will need to break your truce, unless you are voteing to end the game. So, when you do end your truce? It can either be agreed upon or a suprise. Either way, the person that generally comes out on top is the one that has been sandbagging expansion elsewhere and stacking behind the lines next to your border.

Regardless of when the truce is officially broken, whoever stacked the most prior will generally win.

A major part of the outcome is how the other member of the truce reacts.

Did he stack armies behind the truce line too, and have an attack only order issued that will trounce you when you break it? If so, you're now getting steamrolled. Or will he just stop deploying against anyone else, let them walk all over his territories and gain income, while you are trying to fight him off 100%?

Just some considerations you need to take into account. Sorry for rambling.

I challenge what you say, (though i agree that it is 90% correct that you will loose if you fight someone 1v1 from the start, it is not always the case):
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=2783732


diplomacy is the most important part of BFFA's (big FFA's) as seen here:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=2871118

the only reason why i might be against it is for tactical reasons (if u brake a truth u may get the other guy suiciding on u. except for that i would brake them every time i thought i might take an advantage out of it