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Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 15:50:05


{rp} General Mac 
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Belts Discussion

This is a thread to discuss 4 new belts that I want to start

For those of you not familiar the basics are as follows:

The Idea is based on the boxing belts they win after a fight.

One player/team will hold the belt and all bragging rights that go with it

Other players/teams will take it in turns to challenge the Belt holders to a match. If they win they will become the new belt holders and so on

Any player/team wishing to challenge for the belt must say so on the thread and you will be placed on the list.

The belt holder is responsible for the forum thread which involves keeping the list up to date, posting links to games and inviting the next challenger to the game.

I have already recently started a clan belt see here for details

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=4324

so I thought I would get 4 more going and wanted to see what everyone else thought these 4 should be.

I was thinking a 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 and a 6player FFA all non clan related

If it was my personal choice I would like to see different maps to the normal used. However for the sake of the community and what I think you guys want I was thinking

1v1 strategic medium earth ladder settings
2v2 something different not ladder settings (I quite like Treasure map for 2v2 but open to suggestions)
3v3 Europe (im not to familiar with good settings for this so you guys will have to advise)
6player FFA on European Borders (this is a very nice newish map for FFA)

What do you guys think?

The only main problem I can see with this is non members sending invites with 75% luck and i can only see 2 ways round this.

Either allow luck levels to be either 16% or 75% depending on whether the belt holder is a member or not

Or non members have to find a member to create the game.

None of these are ideal so would like to hear what you guys think
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 15:51:48


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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it sounds pretty good

id like to see more belts for clans too though
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:21:10


{rp} General Mac 
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yes maybe in the future Arun but until more clans sign up for the one we already have there isnt any point starting another
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:23:22


Ska2D2 
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I'll set up games if people send me the required settings.

Also I'll sign up for the 1v1 now if I may?

And the 2v2 and 3v3 I am happy to join a team with those I know well.

You might as well let people choose there settings for the belt - champions box with home advantage after all.

Though you could stipulate something along the lines of a super-bout (one of those in L.A or Wembley they do for the cash and promotion) Where there could be a vote on map and settings from the community. This might stop a specialist on a certain map holding all the bouts on that map.

Another idea borrowed from boxing could be mandatory challengers. You can keep the sign up system for assigning challengers and also run small round robins. When there is a winner of a Round Robin - the belt holder is obliged to accept a challenge from that team.

^^ Some ideas off the top of my head hope there are of some use. Keep up your good inventions mac.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:24:31


Ska2D2 
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Oh the super-bout would be held after a mandatory amount of defences, like 2 or 5. That you can decide - forgot to add that.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:31:56


Ska2D2 
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Eeeek triple posting, my apologies. My 2v2 partner should be the offender though.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:37:47

Darth Mylor {Warlighter}
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Perhaps 2v2 can be mddle Earth. I made a great version of it. I can set up a game on it and see what you think.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:38:22


{rp} General Mac 
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SKA2D2 i think you are missing the point slightly. its meant to be an easy system that just runs by itself. no need for super bouts or round robins it should be simple. holder challangers next in line and so on and so on.

i had the home advatage thing on the clan belt so wanted to do something a little different here with specific maps. The idea of a speciallist holding the belt for a while. i think thats the point really if they are good at 3v3 europe they should get the credit

Please dont sign up here this is mearly to talk about the options. i will start the threads once we iron out a few things

im pretty set for the way the system will work i just want help of maps and settings really

trust me once we get it going and people get into the way belts work they will be a lot of fun
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:40:51


{rp} General Mac 
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@Mylor oh yes i love middle earth

maybe a battle of the rings deployment 2v2.

i think that would be good

nothing to fancy though mylor but feel free to invite me
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:43:05


Ska2D2 
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Ok no problem, both options were just ideas for you to muse, the super-bouts thing was to see about more involvement from the community and I somehow got the idea you were wondering about what maps to use. The round robin was simply because you likened it to boxing so I offered the idea that every so often there may be a challenger who came through the ranks so to speak. But I really don't mind how you do it - it is a good idea.

Good luck.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 16:49:12


{rp} General Mac 
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No worries SKA2D2 i always enjoy hearing new ideas but i really just want these to a self ran "tournament" belt
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 17:49:19

Heyheuhei 
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Can i play here?
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 17:56:08


Vanellope von Schweetz 
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i shall be king!
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 17:59:31


À la recherche du temps perdu 
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I'm not intersted in the belt but if it may be helpful i can say that the most played and balanced settings for europe 3v3 are: 4 manual random warlords, no cards or wastelands.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 18:07:47

Darth Mylor {Warlighter}
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Pink can you ask {WM} if they want to join the clan belt? We need all the support that we need.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 18:31:19


Turing
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Honestly, I don't really see the need to specify a map for this. I think it should be more along the lines of the clan belt in terms of the holder getting to pick the map, with the only rules being it must be 1v1, 2v2, or whatever the number of players are. I think that would make for some more interesting games as well as showcase a number of good underplayed maps.
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 18:52:35


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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i agree
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 20:15:52

[WG] Reza
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6ffa on asia ~ just a suggestion :)
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 20:16:36


{rp} General Mac 
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to be honest i feel the same way. i just thought people wanted to see specific maps to make it more of an even match. i personally like the idea of the Belt holder having the slight advantage and choosing the maps. As you say CEBearsfan, its a nice way to showcase good unplayed maps
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 20:17:46


{rp} General Mac 
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interesting Reza

ok so what do others think. one set map or the holder chooses the map?
Belts Discussion: 8/29/2012 20:19:51

Darth Mylor {Warlighter}
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Perhaps this can be like the ladders. The creator (you) chose which map per season (Or after a certain amount of matches).
Belts Discussion: 8/30/2012 11:12:15


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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the holder should choose the map
Belts Discussion: 8/30/2012 11:45:41


hedja 
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holder should choose, cos some people are a bit bored of the same strategic 1v1, and then if we use that then the people who top the normal ladders (HHH and others) will simply reign in two different types of ladder.
btw im in for the 1v1
Belts Discussion: 8/30/2012 12:26:51


{RSP} Nike
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i think it should be the same map every time. the holder can pick whatever map they specialise at and give them an unfair advantage.
Belts Discussion: 8/30/2012 12:35:12


{rp} General Mac 
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i hear what you are saying Nike and i thought more people would have your view but i quite like the fact that the holder has a slight advantage.

The holder also has the disadvantage that we can see the previous games he/she has played. so the longer your hold the belt the harder it will become

this would be even more true if it was the same map every time
Belts Discussion: 8/31/2012 11:58:37


{RSP} Nike
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ah general, you can observe the moves of the best ladder players for 50 games, but you'l probably still lose against him.

so who has the belt now?
Belts Discussion: 8/31/2012 13:51:48


{rp} General Mac 
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ok sure thats an extreme case but im sure if and average player observed a slightly better than average player in 50 games he would have a better chance of beating him than without viewing the games,dont you think? :)

in regards to who has the belt now this isnt actually the belt thread just a discusion about them. no belts have been won yet but keep your eyes pealed on the other proper game threads to find out who the holders are
Belts Discussion: 8/31/2012 14:46:46


DeмoZ 
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To add onto what Pink said: it should also be 0% luck straight round.
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