JSA has used Khalid before. Not the same person though.

11/20/2013
"I am looking for a tutor who can help to make me better at warlight."

11/21/2013
"Dear dead piggy, I would like to be better in all aspects on warlight. I am playing two team games right now, but all of my other games have been 1v1's.

Dear Brain, when you explore on warlight, it is easy to find out many of these things. The warlight wiki also guided me along the way. I have so far only played 1v1 but am playing two team games currently. If I had started off as good as I am now, I would win 75% I think, not 61%. Delay apprentice is an easy achievement to do. I looked at some games played by players ranked high in the 1v1 ladder and tried to emulate what they do, and I succeeded in at least one instance. Levels don't tell how good a player is. I have lost to players that are a lower level than me, and beaten players ranked higher than me. I was on my computer all day on Sunday, and have been on for 4-5 hours each day except for Sunday. I figure that I have been on warlight a total of 30 hours. I am not an alt, I don't even think I've played any alts. Are they common on warlight? I don't know who Gui is."

So this quote proves my brother can lie. Okay.

"Orange, never once did I say that Khalid was my brother from the start. But I did say Robin Hood was my brother from the start. Reread my posts if you don't believe me."

Not sure if it makes a differnece, but this was a typo. It should say: Orange, never once did I say that I said Khalid was my brother from the start. But I did say Robin Hood was my brother from the start as soon as he joined warlight.

you did say you told everyone Robin Hood/ Khalid that he was your brother from the start, but the thread plusy gave us

That was the comment from you right before I replied. What I wrote there doesn't even make sense; it should obviously be my corrected version without the typo.

Oke... So JSA has told us that:
1. "Khalid is robin hood"
2. "never once did I say that Khalid was my brother from the start."

I don't see how you get this conclusion even with the typo...

Coclusion:
Khalid and robin hood are JSA's alt.
But i have to admid, in the start i really did think robin hood was his brother... looks like JSA did learn from his mistakes with Khalid.

Hmm. See which account is older and maybe you want to revise that statement, because even if we were alts, it makes no sense.

Why:
If robin hood/Khalid was JSA's Brother then why would robin hood say: "I am looking for a tutor who can help to make me better at warlight." and "The warlight wiki also guided me along the way."
while he has a brother that already know the game and can learn him evryting?
If Khalid is not robin hood, then why would JSA say:
"Khalid is robin hood"

So your argument once again disproves itself. Why would I be asking to learn? At that time, I was sure I was one of the best 10 players in warlight. Who did I think would teach me? My brother, at that time, was far from a great player. Everyone who knows me knows I am not near as active during the school year as I am during the summer, so I did not have time to help him as much as he would have liked. So he asked for help from others. So part of his reason is to find a player who was active and could help him improve. The other part of his reason was to make Khalid look less like an alt (of course this does not usually work; all of my alts never use the forums because they are too likely to be caught as an alt if they use the forums. Check my mistake a while back when I was typing with Crusader in the forums :p I learned my lesson.). So yeah, logically, Khalid cannot be me. Your second part of that statement supports my brother and my cause even more. If Khalid was not Robin Hood, then why would I say that? Clearly, Khalid is not me.

I feel like I'm missing something. Seriously. These facts don't convict me at all. Yet Fridge and your Dutch friend (who we know uses alts on the ladders anonymously) seem to think it is good evidence. Care to elaborate on this?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_ZCNVJf7xyeoHulVstxLtr2No2xVNoMHpDhlG1Aitmc/edit?usp=sharing

Check it out. Why the hell would I tell the Warlighters that I was taking over Khalid unless I was being honest them? Are you going to go as far as to say I fabricated all of that, and lied to the Warlighters for no reason? Seriously, what objective would I have for posting that unless I wanted to be honest to the Warlighters?

Try playing Devil's advocate and find me one possible reason why I would post that if Robin Hood and Khalid were and have always been my alts.

Also, you can ask GG about how close my brother was to quitting. He hated how nonmember accounts had lagged for the last few months, and rather than buying a membership on his account (he guessed he would likely quit farily soon even if he had a membership and wasn't sure if it'd be worth it), he was going to quit warlight. One GG player (I think it was Julkorn) ended up buying my brother a membership, and so he has not quit and likely will not for a long time. However, Khalid had no membership and was not going to get one, so he asked me to take over that account, which I agreed to do. Want proof of this lag? Why do you think my brother played on his GG account instead of Khalid in the clan league, even though he was playing for the Warlighters? Because the lag was too bad for him to play the clan league on; I only took over Khalid in early July because he (my brother) was fed up with the lag and was going to let himself get booted in all the games on that account.

I like what Ekstone says. Why did you want to keep it quiet???? Also you said Robin Hood/Khalid was bordering on quitting in that post. If he was bordering on quitting and eventually did quit who is to say that you didn't just keep using that account? That way you weren't lieing to Warlighters but in the long run you gained 2 accounts.

So how's the league going? All this crap would be better suited in a separate thread.

^I agree. I think in the future all alt discussions need to be separated out.

JSA Joined WarLight: 10/26/2011
The Champion (profile not found)(http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=18846)
King Tut Joined WarLight: 11/23/2012
Robin Hood Joined WarLight: 6/22/2013
Khalid Joined WarLight: 11/16/2013


Khalid's 1e posts on the seam day he made that account:
11/16/2013 (http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=17645&Offset=60)
"What is [20]?"

That is what hes "Brother" did say 5 minutes after JSA's post.
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Khalid's 2e posts:
11/16/2013 (http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=17645&Offset=60)
"This looks cool. Can I sign up? I'm very new but I am already figuring out how to win over half the time."

That is what Robin Hood/Khalid/King Tut/The Champion did write right under his "Brothers" post.
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Khalid
11/18/2013
(http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=17904)
"I have not much experience on warlight, but from when I play, picking all 3 picks in the same area usually does not work if the opponent is a strong player. How did Alababi's picks work so perfectly in that game he posted? And from what I see, if Alababi gets first pick, then wouldn't he get all of his first 3 picks, and REDSOXWINTHEWORLDSERIES would get Blue 5 bonus and first turn bonus in Central America. Wouldn't REDSOX win if that was the case?

Sorry if these questions are dumb, I am still very new here and trying to get a grasp on some of the finer points of warlight."

Here hes "Brother" post one and a half hour afther JSA to also say that the picks are bad?
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Khalid 3/9/2014:
(http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=31239&Offset=80)
"I am one of the newly appointed clan leaders in 101st and I agree with JSA. Lynx players earned the spot in Group A. Why would they be kept out of that deserved spot when they have not cheated? They earned it, let them keep it. We will start at the bottom of the clan league and work our way up."

Here hes "Brother" to back JSA up 8 minutes after JSA's post.
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I don't understand your point. Are you saying it would be unusual for a brother to back the other up? You did not actually make any point here (just posted threads and quotes), so I am having a hard time figuring out what you are asserting.

Update on scores would be great.

> 2014
> Not bookmarking the google docs link

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Viz3GlgloChi50YIkMjUsU30xuOTfmd1icPsNrgc8FI/edit#gid=43251602

"Therefore, Orange and Woohoo will be suspended for one season (same as master of desaster/desi)."

They will be suspended for 1 season. ---> I get and understand that.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Viz3GlgloChi50YIkMjUsU30xuOTfmd1icPsNrgc8FI/edit#gid=1508393558

It shows that we have been stripped of points. There was no ruling that says we were to lose points because of it. Please explain =)

@turtle: I assumed the same sanctions would count for orange/wohoo as for mod/desi so if someone of the admins says it isn't this way i will change it back.
In the end it won't matter at all for turtles since they can't pass Blitz any more now

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Viz3GlgloChi50YIkMjUsU30xuOTfmd1icPsNrgc8FI/edit#gid=0

Everything is sorted on max points now.
Group A: 87,01% completed

clan   score   win%  max points games left  rank    tourn. wins
Apex   146     77%     195        10       1st-3rd      2
WG     141     73%     189        10       1st-3rd      2
WM     122     61%     164         9       1st-4th      2
GG     106     51%     140         7       3rd-6th      0
Ahol    75     36%     113         8       4th-7th      1
Master  69     35%     113         9       4th-7th      0
101st   36     19%      71         7       6th-7th      0

group B: 94,81% compeleted

clan   score   win%  max points games left   rank    tourn. wins
20     173     77%     196         5          1st        4
WarL.  130     57%     147         4        2nd-3rd      0
French 126     57%     144         4        2nd-3rd      2
VIW    111     48%     125         3        4th-5th      1
BIA    110     45%     115         1        4th-5th      0
REGL    78     40%      99         5          6th        0
XCD     58     29%      68         2          7th        1

BIA getting pretty close to actually finishing in front of VIW but nothing is decided yet but it also doesn't matter that much since there is nothing for promotion or relegation for both clans. On the other hand French and WarLighters are still fighting for 2nd place which is giving the right for promotion.


Group C: 97,84% completed

clan   score   win%  max points games left  rank    tourn. wins
Lynx   176     75%     191         4         1st        4
Blitz  150     75%     155         1         2nd        3
BR     134     59%     144         2         3rd        0
SNinja 121     54%     126         1         4th        2
Turtle 102.7   57%     107.7       1         5th        1
Swirve  46     19%      56         2         6th        0
Ohms    25     12%      25         0         7th        0

for both desi from Blitz as for Wohoo from Turtles the code is using no points for 1v1, 1/2 points for 2v2 and 1/3 points for 3v3. Cause of this turtles has no normal number but a (endless) decimal number.

Edited 9/16/2014 20:15:19

go WG!!!

I think games left from group A are a little off

Battle for 1-2 is tight in A, and also for that relegation spot between AHol and Master

oh yea forgot to change the games for group A since i basically copy/paste from group C but will change now

Group A: 86.38% completed

Clan    Points      Win%    Max Points Games Left Rank 
Apex      146      76.79%      195      10      1st-3rd                  
WG        141      73.21%      189      10      1st-3rd
WM        122      62.50%      169      10      1st-4th
GG        106      50.85%      140       7      3rd-6th
AHoL      75       36.84%      118       9      4th-6th
MASTER    69       35.09%      113       9      4th-6th
101st     36       18.33%       66       6        7th

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Arn0ahIN9qcsdDM2VU9mUnFONmltYjN1ZlBWTDlXV3c&output=html

101st will be relegated, though it remains to be seen from GG AHoL or MASTER who the final relegation will be.

Edited 9/18/2014 16:34:39

It may not be possible for GG to get relegated (depending on who is playing who). For example, if Master/AHol have any head to head matchups left, only 1 can get those points, not both.

statistically it's still possible for GG to become 6th but for that they have to lose all their 7 games left and both AHol and Masters need to win all their 7-8 of their 9 games (7 for AHol and 8 for Masters). there are still 2 AHol-Master games left to be played so in this way either masters win both or they both win 1 but if masters will lose both of those games GG is already ensured for staying in group A.

edit:
@turtle: i've talked with JSA and he said Turtles won't lose any points so changed it back to normal

Edited 9/17/2014 16:22:51

Thank you for clarifying.