btw orange, maybe is the case to tell us your real 1st account, as both beelz and trollussa, at the time of #elite!, told me orage wasn't your 1st account.
I remember you have 85% of stats with 300 games.

And turtle, I still don't agree with you on their points, but since that is what was decided by the clan league runners at the time, I accepted it. And whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant; Arun pissed me off in that thread, and I wouldn't have joined any clan of his at that point in time, and if I was in his clan already, I would have quit.

that you still think he is my alt makes zero sense to me...

@Gnuffone
Belz never made Zebedeus public knowledge of that being his alt. He told YOU but not the COMMUNITY.

See as how the League Runners Consultant is under fire for being an Alt himself I suggest that he doesn't get a vote for several reasons.
1.) If he votes there will be 4 voters which may cause a 2-2 tie in vote.
2.) He may be a Hypocrite in this situation.
And most importantly:
3.) We should just ask Fizzer to be the Supreme judge and simply say Guilty or Not Guilty and then we can all go on our merry ways.

Why would JSA know what goes on in WG? We chat often, but not about WG matters.

And yes it is ok for someone to have an alt in two clans if it is known. Gnull has an alt in rp, he does not compete with it in leagues. Miyagi does the same. The key is transparency.

Now we await Apollo's, Miyagi's, and Chris CMU's votes on whether Woohoo and Dutch Desire are the same person. If 2 say yes, we will then decide on the punishment for Dutch Desire (and possibly the Turtles). If 2 or 3 say no, then Dutch Desire and Woohoo will be declared innocent and no punishment will be given.

Although mod's idea with the rosters being submitted before the season starts will go into action this season (Chris already suggested it privately a few days ago), so there will be no point deductions next season hopefully.

Also, we will reconsider the desi/mod/Blitz ruling.

Special Thank You is going out to Ineffable!

Thanks for keeping score for the clan league your spreadsheets are amazing! Group A owes you one!

~The Turtle,

P.S. Thanks for seeing some reason in our arguements.

Lol Turtle, I'm not under fire for being an alt at all. 2 people that are already pissed off at me are the only 2 that have accused Robin Hood of being me. But as I mentioned in my post above, I won't be counting my vote on this topic because I may be biased because of my argument with you on here.

You didnt say it above. You have your vote a few pages back and said that you were waiting on Myagi, ChrisCMU, and Apollos votes.

Organge hates you because you hated him first and why should Ineffable hate you? Do you think i hate you?

Robin Hood or Khalid is NOT JSA. lol this possibility is so low I'm laughing. Unless of course Khalid manages to play at a different level in a different style, as well as having different interests and a totally different personality. Khalid joined our clan a long time ago - before I actually started to count JSA as a friend.

Turtle, I can't help but think you're grasping at straws. We know that DD and his alt played from the same computer - remember GG Announcer? We can also see that DD's arguements are piss poor. Leave it to the vote; but don't get your hopes up - your coffin looks closed.

" and possibly the Turtles.)"

You talking about me or my clan? Because if your talking about me:
1. Give me the common respect of using my name! I always call you by your name.
If your talking about my clan:
1. Call us by our name.
I dont call Lynx kitty kitty clan do I?

Reread my post above. I implied it. If you had read it, you should have been able to figure it out.

And I think you are mad at me right now because I accused a player in your clan of being an alt, and potentially hurting your clan's reputation and point standings. So yeah, I'd say you're probably pissed off at me.

And with me and Ineffable, we've had at least two major disagreements in the past. One was enough to make me leave WG (although I don't hold any grudges against him for that one at all since it was at least partly my fault). The second was much more recent with his Manager's League. I was going to be a manager and was removed for reasons that I still consider completely unfair today. So whether he dislikes me, I don't know, but we've definitely had our fair share of arguments in the past.

Arun I may be grasping at the straws but let me ask you this.

If someone came to you and started giving you a ton of crap because Ekstone was an alt and in your clan. (Ekstone isnt an alt and a cool guy. I'm just using him for example). Well what would you do if they said he was some good player like MG? (Both Hungarian players). Until your given undeniable evidence what do you want to do?

As my clan member I'd be sticking up for him. As my friend I'd be staking my reputation for him. As a fellow gamer I'd hope to continue the experience.

Aruns word is good enough for me..... Robin Hood isnt JSA....

Here's a question (all hypothetical). Why are top players bringing their alts to me? I know why Widzids came and its a silly reason but when Apex became official he gave us his alt. Belzebub..... Why did he come? He was decent, talked a bit, and had lots of games I thought cool this guy isnt a noob. Aro..... Later joined Illuminati but within the last week has joined XS. Dutch Desire..... Why bring ""his brother"" to me? TheWarlightAprentice (in Pulseys troll clan) was in my clan. But lets look at TWA's profile and look at his Tutor.... My hand?????

If someone came to you and started giving you a ton of crap because Ekstone was an alt and in your clan. (Ekstone isnt an alt and a cool guy. I'm just using him for example). Well what would you do if they said he was some good player like MG? (Both Hungarian players). Until your given undeniable evidence what do you want to do?

Ekstone and MG wouldn't be proven to be playing on the same computer. Combine this with a shockingly unconvincing denial and it looks like undeniable evidence to me :)

Thats why I said "If". :P
Edit: You are shocked that DD/Orange is unconvincing?


Myagi Votes: Wohoo is an Alt.
Apollo Votes: Wohoo is NOT an Alt.
ChrisCMU Votes: TBD

It rests in your hands Chris, choose and let us be done with it.

Edited 9/11/2014 22:29:36

Apollo voted wohoo is NOT an alt? xD

Yes I did. I can't imagine such a fucked up person? who would talk to themselves in team chat. Just to make it look like they are brothers. Why would you do that?