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Clan League #5: 9/5/2014 20:00:48


Waka 
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Clan mvp's so far:
Group A:
Apex   Widzisz   is 11-0 in his 3 tournaments total so far
WG     marc2013  is 11-1 in his 3 tournaments so far. Other with same losses is ChrisCMU and they play a 2v2 together
WM     czajnik   is 8-1 so far and this means only player in WM that lose more then 1 time so far
GG     Julkorn   just has best win% so far within clan
Master Bjarke    just has best win% so far within clan
AHol   NoobSc.   best win% within clan and only player who actually won a tournament within AHol
101st  either Good Kid who is inactive currently or Darkpie



Group B:
20     either Ruthless or ultimaratio since both of them are undefeated so far although there are 4 other losing 1 time with 2 tournaments
Warl.  G. Arun  undefeated so far although is he loses 1 game Panda will take over
French 125ch209 although Titan didn't lose any of his games 125ch managed to win the S1v1 without losing and played strong on guiroma
XCD    senafajeide  only XCD member that actually has positive ratio
VIW    Carlos Danger  only played 1 tournament together with Pushover but won all games there surprisingly
BIA    Synesthesia  highest win% within clan by nearly 20% lead
REGL   Hennns   won the only tournament for his clan




Group C:
Lynx   Dom365  still undefeated after playing 14 team games
Blitz  JoJe    Won 1 tournament already only lost 1 game in 3 different tournaments
Turtle Wohoo   only turtle who won a tournament
BR     Furacão same win% as other within clan but finished way more games total
SNinja Drama   only ninja that won a tournament and the other tournament he became 2nd
Swirve Randy   highest internal win%
Ohms   S. Alp. even though he is inactive currently he has highest internal win%
Clan League #5: 9/5/2014 23:09:56


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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How am I MVP?? I'm in just one 3v3 :D maybe alter it to most points gained per player?
Clan League #5: 9/6/2014 03:18:27


ChrisCMU 
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Too bad marc got booted vs apex (twice since they did a makeup game), we could be undefeated...maybe
Clan League #5: 9/6/2014 07:26:47


Pushover 
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wakaranai is bad at picking MVPs... he should take into account number of tournies played and total points earned for the team. Also he should wait until AFTER IT'S FINISHED :P
Clan League #5: 9/6/2014 13:44:56


ChrisCMU 
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Also it goes against the nature of a clan, which is a team. Everyone contributes to wins.

And yes, mid league is bad, since matchups are huge. Wait until it is over
Clan League #5: 9/6/2014 15:47:50


Banana 
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Waka, stop doing all your great work, these people are ungrateful
Clan League #5: 9/6/2014 15:58:13


Master Turtle 
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Its ok Waka since Group C is 90% ish done.
Clan League #5: 9/6/2014 21:30:26


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Waka - awesome idea and awesome work all this season! I just think the MVP should be decided differently because I'm clearly not one of them. Maybe the person who won most points overall for each clan?
Clan League #5: 9/7/2014 09:52:33


Waka 
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in some cases a player that is playing 2 tournaments might get less points total for clan then someone who is playing 4 different tournaments and with group B i had the hardest time to pick as well
Clan League #5: 9/7/2014 11:00:46


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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It's fine still awesome work! I just feel other members of my clan contributed more :)
Clan League #5: 9/7/2014 18:28:21


Beren Erchamion 
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but XS would like to compete in the clan league next season. I'm assuming that will be starting up in about a month or so since this season looks to be winding down.
Clan League #5: 9/8/2014 03:35:35


ChrisCMU 
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You should mail JSA to be sure, but i will remember
Clan League #5: 9/8/2014 06:56:21


Pushover 
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I thought the clan league was being run by you (Chris) and Miyagi? Is JSA taking back over?
Clan League #5: 9/8/2014 11:03:42


Phaeril 
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I think this last individual classement does not mean anything. I'm ok for 1v1, but it's not pertinent to judge players individually on team games...
Clan League #5: 9/8/2014 13:10:10


ChrisCMU 
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League was run by Miyagi with Apollo and me as consultants. I think next season will be JSA woth Apollo and me as consultants (and Miyagi if he still wants to help).
Clan League #5: 9/11/2014 00:33:49

JSA 
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Facts of the Woohoo/Dutch Desire case:

Evidence that makes it likely Woohoo is Dutch Desire:
1. Witholding facts about himself: Woohoo fervently denies being an alt at first. When he is accused of being Dutch Desire, he says that he is Dutch Desire's "brother" (an easy lie to get around the fact that their IP's were the same). When many people say he couldn't be that good with so few games, he simply says he is a genius at first. As time goes on, he "admits" that he has an older account named Goldbeadshot. Why did Woohoo wait to reveal these "facts"? Was it because he didn't think they were a big deal at first? Or was he trying to cover himself and lower the other evidence against him? The latter seems more likely to me.

2. Woohoo and Dutch Desire talk similar. Not very strong evidence, but it adds to the probability they are the same player.

3. Dutch Desire and Woohoo accounts were made the same day. Coincidence? Unlikely.

4. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6958216 . Dutch Desire kicks my ass in a Qina 1v1 game. He says South China Sea is the best bonus on the map. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6934959 . Woohoo picks the exact same as Dutch Desire advises. While it is possible they just discussed strategies on it, that seems unlikely, since they have played no 1v1 games against each other.

5. No Woohoo games with Dutch Desire in them. Why did they never play lately?

6. Woohoo has played more games int he past two months than he had in over 2 years.

Conclusion: These 6 facts make me 99% sure Woohoo is Dutch Desire. However, the defense also needs a chance.

Here is Woohoo's defense:
1. Goldbeadshot and Orange/Dutch Desire have played around 30 games together (linked in a private chat). In every single game, they are on the same team. Alts can play on the same team easily. Therefore, these games prove very little. If they played as teammates, why not agaisnt each other? There is some chat in these games that do provide evidence that Goldbeadshot is not Dutch Desire.

Conclusion: It is a distinct possibility that Goldbeadshot is Dutch Desire's brother. But even if we assume that is the truth, there is no evidence that Woohoo is indeed Goldbeadshot. Therefore, whether Goldbeadshot is Dutch Desire or not is irrelevant; Woohoo is the account in question here. Based on this evidence, I am almost certain Woohoo is Dutch Desire/Orange. The clan league is not something where we need 100% proof, because that would be almost impossible online. All we can do is that if we are pretty sure an account is an alt of someone else, we must conclude they are guilty.

I await ChrisCMU's, Miyagi's, and Apollo's final decisions on this, but I wanted to post it on here just to allow the warlight community to view all the facts.
Clan League #5: 9/11/2014 01:20:41


Ace Windu 
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I move for a mistrial.
Clan League #5: 9/11/2014 06:01:25


ChrisCMU 
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The no Woohoo/DD games together seems really fishy to me. I have no family that play, but I do have close friends. We always have a game or two going with each other (together or against each other). You'd think brothers would be playing against each other and teaching one way or another.
Clan League #5: 9/11/2014 08:25:47


Cheery Dog
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I think I only ever played at most 3 games directly against my brother, most of the time we just picked on AIs.
Although there's also a few times we joined large FFAs, where we would have been against each other - I think we usually allied with each other in those though.

I don't know what we'd be doing now since he quit playing.
Clan League #5: 9/11/2014 14:36:24


Master Turtle 
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Apollo has answered and JSA I recently played Wohoo in 3 games on Qina. I will link them in our private chat. Please do read the chat.
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