angry apprentice is angry.

loled at turtle's investigation skills...

Even if he is Dutch Desire, I dont believe the Turtles had any knowledge of it. No point in punishing them unless they knew what was going on, if it even was.

True, but if GG knew, they could be subject to penalty. And if neither knew, Dutch would still be suspended from the next league if no penalties were given to a clan.

^^true

Turtle do you not talk to your clanmates? How can there be so many in question when you don't know a thing about them.

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Turtle, yeah Belzebu=Zebedeus is very likely. I am also pretty sure Thanathos is Belzebu.

Easy way to find out if Woohoo is Dutch Desire. 2 main methods. A) see if they played against each other and if they did, link the games here. Obviously if Woohoo is not Dutch Desire, the games will be real games, likely with some chat (not necessarily though, since they can just talk in real life.) If Woohoo is Dutch, the games will end on counters or with obvious bad moves from one player or the other that gave the opposing player the win. Highly unlikely they never played each other(unless they are alts). B) Woohoo's first 20 games. Please link them here. If his first 20 games are played well, we can know for certain he is an alt. If his first 20 games are poorly played, we can guess Woohoo is not an alt.

It really depresses me that i had the little fairness and admitted my use of an alt. If i didn't worst case would be that i can't participate in the next clan league and blitz would be promoted easily. I feel so stupid.

well thats not really to tell either, i thought they where related to each other?? if so he can played the first few games for him. I did that to some of my friends too and i also used their accounts to play some games or to show them how to play/pick/counterpick etc...

and 2nd how can you find his games then? is there a way to see all played games from 1 person?

edit @ MOD you are stupid :D haha

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@MoD No good deed ever goes unpunished.

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Why is it stupid to admit it? I think it repairs your image. Sure, you got penalties that maybe would not have happened, but I hold you in higher regard than someone that keeps it secret. Besides, if we found out later the penalty still would have happened anyway, they just would have been retroactive. At least now Blitz knows what they are up against.

Beavers if he has access to Woohoo's account he can see common games against Dutch. It sounded like he had access.

true he can also see that if he doesnt have acces to Woohoo's account haha:) but was wondering if i can check like all the games you played or from someone else?

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Edited 8/20/2014 23:44:20

wrong thread, sorry. moved to Pulsey thread (discussion on how deep rosters are)

Edited 8/20/2014 23:45:23

If Dutch Desire and Wohoo were alts they would both be on vacation. Wohoo is out of vacations.... Dutch Desire and Wohoo don't have shared games. I will list his games in a moment.

Edit: He was gone all August and needed someone to keep setting vacations.

Edited 8/21/2014 21:33:42

@Jefferspin, I try and talk to my clan mates. We have a clan chat game and we use the forums. I play real time games with a few of them. Sadly, I didn't start the clan/recruiting. Our founder gave up on leading so I've taken over since I have the Manager rights. Zebedues has always been quiet and I never would have assumed he was an alt with his number of games played and ladder (top 10) semi success. Belzebub isn't in clan league so it doesn't matter if he and Zebedeus are alts.


I am letting Zebedeus stay in the clan out of respect to how well he's played for the clan when he was active. (Ie: Clan Challenge Battle and part of Clan League).

First 5 RANKED games. I can't see his practice or singleplayer games. =(

1. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=2276419
2. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5710195
3. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5716456
4. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5723644
5. http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5724019

Game 5 is LD and he wins; he could be an alt because of that but, he could be honest with his claim of practicing everything on singleplayer/nonranked games.

Wohoo:

Joined WarLight: 3/6/2012
Currently playing in 5 multi-player games
Played in 134 multi-player games (46.2% real-time)

Dutch Desire:

Joined WarLight: 3/6/2012
Currently playing in 6 multi-player games
Played in 1001 multi-player games (53.8% real-time)


Could confirm that they are brothers and starting playing on the same day. I mean who makes an alt on the same day they start. No one has a reputation on day 1.

Funny that Woohoo's 2nd game is 1 year, 11 months after he joins warlight. And I've heard that Dutch Desire had other accounts (I know he made Orange2 and Orange 3 4 days after he made Dutch Desire and Woohoo.) Oh, and http://warlight.net/Profile?p=9310921236 is Dutch Desire also. All made 3/10/2012. Who says Dutch Desire and Woohoo are his first accounts? Considering we know Dutch Desire made 3 alts 4 days after he made Dutch Desire and Woohoo, we can assume he is both of them. All the evidence points to Woohoo being Dutch Desire. Can you please link their games vs each other?

JSA, kindly re read my posts and see that they have no game together.

I have recently heard, from a member of blitz, that Dutch Desire was not the first account.