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Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 19:09:27

JSA 
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I had an idea that maybe Warlight could have an Olympics. Basically, there would be 10 maps, Medium Earth, Europe, and 8 others...Each country has trials to pick one person to represent their country on each map...The representatives of each country would then have some kind of tournament and then we would award a gold, silver, and bronze metal...There would also be 3 4v4 maps to represent the team events in the Olympics. What do you all think? Also, what maps should we use?
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 19:17:05


Moros 
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Wouldn't it be nice to use maps of the countries that are represented?
And I second Oliebol as the Dutch representative! That is if he agrees.
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 20:26:47


Ironheart
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seems a lot like the nations cup and in the olympics there are more than 1 representive why just 1.
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 20:33:21

JSA 
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It is very different from the Nations Cup...The Nations Cup is more about teamwork while the Olympics is a way to show individual skills more.

I would like to limit it to 10 maps that way there are more good players competing against each compared to where if we did each individual country map, it would be at least 30, probably more and you would not see as many good games...and there would be a trial for each country to decide who makes it.

I dont know why i said one...i think it would be better to have two...I just want to see if there is much interest in it right now and we can work out the small details later on.
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 21:33:37

Alexander the Great
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I would definitely play for my country...Macedonia!
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 21:35:10


x 
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i'll play for guyana.
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 21:45:38


Ironheart
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i will play for nigeria
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 21:57:23

JSA 
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So, is anyone actually intrested in doing this?
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 22:26:40


Blue 
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Sounds cool Id represent central US, East Us or Great Lakes.
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 22:42:00


x 
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yeah, i'm actually interested. ya got a problem with guyana, buddy?
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 22:52:18

JSA 
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no, i just thought it was funny how you were playing for Great Britain in the Nations Cup but in the Olympics you wanted to play for Guyana.
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 23:09:31


Najdorf
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you should allow more than one person to represent a country, I agree its individual. You cannot have one sole person represent america b/c who would you pick?
Warlight Olympics: 7/3/2012 23:12:54


Blue 
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It is one fopr each map I believe. Also do we need to represent our actual nation??
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 00:17:53

RvW 
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There's a slight problem with representing nations and having a fixed number of contestants from each nation. A while ago I was a volunteer at a big international event. We had a team from Slovenia, one from Croatia, one from Serbia, one from Bosnia Herzegovina and one from Macedonia. You don't see the problem? There was also one team representing the entire United States. Of course, had this been organised 25 years ago, those participants would have had to fight for a place on a single Yugoslavian team (while the USA would have had the same amount of participants).

I'm perfectly okay with people representing countries of course, but having a fixed number of participants (which, in some cases, might even be higher than the total number of WL players in that country) just doesn't work. If we were to hold a marathon, we could say people have to qualify for the finals by showing they can run a marathon in x hours. You might additionally limit the number of participants from each country, but with such a qualification process you would prevent someone who can't beat level 1 from making it to the tournament simply on account of him having found the button which says "forum" (and being the only person in Liechtenstein, the Seychelles, Christmas Island or Belize who happens to play WarLight). Unfortunately, unlike for a marathon, I don't really know of a good way for people to proof a certain proficiency on WL (it has to be objective, non-fakeable and accurate...). If anyone has any ideas, please share!


Note: Not all those examples of tiny countries with "just one WL player" are equally brilliant; they are simply the smallest countries I could think of. No disrespect (or prejudice against local technological development) intended!
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 00:31:05

JSA 
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Good point, RvW. The problem is finding out what is a consistent judge on who makes it. I think the single player challenges are about the only way to do it unless someone else has a good idea. If we do the single player challenges, what Level should it be that they have to beat?
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 00:51:03


dunga • apex 
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i think you could have a commitee of about 10 players judging players skill level, like happened in the manager league. The unknown players have to be judged by a stat based formula unfortunately.

You can have this first event with half of the intended number of players in each tournament (32 instaed of 64 for example). And you could have regionals for the next olympics.

I think you must do double elimination because it becomes clear 1st 2nd and 3rd place. Or with less fairness you can do it single elimination with a game for 3rd place.

I think you have to limit a Nations squad size possibility to about 15% or 20% of total spots (6 or 7 USA players in 32 competeing for example).

And, I will represent Brazil
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 01:32:14

JSA 
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The tournaments will definitely be double elimination i think but the trials are going to be the tough part.

I like your idea of having judges but i was thinking of making it more like the actual Olympic trials. I was thinking that we should randomly divide them into groups of 30 for the trials. In each group there will be 3 semifinals like the real trials and the top 3 from each group advance plus one wildcard. The finals would be another 10 player round robin and the top 4 players in it would advance to the Olympics. If we had 8 groups(240 players) that would be a 32 person double elimination tournament. And we would do this for each of the 10 maps and you could join whichever ones you wanted to.

The people who actually qualify for the Olympics would need to put their country on their tagline so everyone can see which country they are representing.
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 03:12:40


{RSP} Nike
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il play for hong kong/china if this olympics start in August
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 03:58:23


The Red Hoard
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I play for the Ukraine. Because the Ukraine is not weak!! We are strong like bull!!
Warlight Olympics: 7/4/2012 06:34:16


Niko 
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In for France !
Warlight Olympics: 7/8/2012 01:09:58

JSA 
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So we're going to need 10 maps for it...My plan is to include each part of the world where people that play warlight are living in. So here's my basic ideas for maps:

Maps that will definitely be in it:
Medium Earth-
East Asia & Oceania-
Europe-
Medium USA-

Other regions I'd like to have maps of:
Russia- One map but it appears unbalanced to me
Canada- Unbalanced map and too big
Africa- Map is too big
South America & Carribbean- Map is too big
I was thinking that maybe if there were smaller versions of these maps with around 100 territories we could use them...i might have time to make a couple of them.

Other possible maps:
China: Warring States-
Small Earth-
Huruey's Castle-
Imperium Romanum-

If you have any ideas for the maps or templates please contact me. Also, if anyone would be interested in making smaller versions of those maps please contact me.
Warlight Olympics: 7/8/2012 01:48:32


Blue 
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I say you use all 4 of the other possible maps!
Warlight Olympics: 7/8/2012 05:46:04


skunk940 
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If you want a small earth then use Earth (Realistic), its 171 territories. That small enoguh?
Warlight Olympics: 7/8/2012 07:20:25


Moros 
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You can balance them yourself! And there's another Canada map: http://warlight.net/Map.aspx?ID=495
Warlight Olympics: 7/11/2012 02:30:47

JSA 
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Ok, I've picked out the maps and I will wait on the settings for right now. The maps are:
For 1v1:
Ancient China
Medium Earth
East Asia & Oceania
Europe
Medium USA
Small Earth
Canada
Russia
Huruey's Castle
Imperium Romanum
For 2v2:
East Asia & Oceania
Imperium Romanum
Medium Earth
For 3v3:
Middle East
Europe
For 4v4:
Africa
South America and The Caribbean

Also, how should I do the Olympic Trials?
My thoughts for 1v1 was one of two options:
Option 1:
8 groups of 30
Divide each group into 3 round robins (10 people in each)
The top 3 from each round robin advance to the finals for the group plus one wildcard
In the group finals, the top 4 will advance to the Olympics.
240 people in trials, 32 advance

Option 2:
16 groups of 20
Top 4 in each group advance
320 people in trials, 64 advance

For the 2v2 and 3v3 and 4v4 I will use dunga's earlier mentioned idea and have judges determine which teams make it and which don't.

If you have a team for any map, please post on this thread. Also, please vote on which option you think we should do for 1v1.
Warlight Olympics: 7/11/2012 03:20:08


De–ľoZ 
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I'm in.
Warlight Olympics: 7/11/2012 04:09:04


ChrisCMU 
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I'd say for US you'd have to do one from each state or something given the number of people playing here.
Warlight Olympics: 7/11/2012 04:10:15


ChrisCMU 
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Maybe do US champ versus world champ or something. Or match a US person against a world person in each first round matchup (you'd need 50 other countries represented then).
Warlight Olympics: 7/11/2012 06:57:03


Moros 
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Not necessary, in real world Olympics all countries are equal too.
Warlight Olympics: 7/11/2012 11:54:54


Pink 
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what about qualification tournments for each country? that way it is easier to see who should represent each country
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