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how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 10:07:18


Pyotr Krasnov 
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this isnt meant to be political or anything but some recent events have happened in virginia which violate the 2nd amendment and citizens there are not so happy so they're gonna march down to richmond on january 20th and do some stuff

Edited 1/2/2020 20:43:46
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 10:07:51


riskboy88 
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Very possible
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 10:33:05


TBest 
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1 This is an off-topic thread not general.

2. If you are talking about that new law(s), I don’t think that violates the 2nd ammendment. I don’t think civil war is plausible either way, even if say Tex or Cali wants out of US.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 10:39:36

laVon
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not gonna happen
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 12:20:49


Viking1007 
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this isnt meant to be political or anything but some recent events have happened in virginia which violate the 2nd amendment and citizens there are not so happy so they're gonna march down to richmond on january 20th and do some stuff

When I look this p on the internet, I see nothing about it. I see nothing about a "march down to Richmond"
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 12:41:16


Dutch Desire 
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More than 100 protesters gathered Tuesday evening for a "March to Remove" rally in Downtown Richmond. Sheriffs and Citizens Form Militias to Protect Second Amendment.

Yea you might not find it easily because of internet censorship.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 14:02:11

Edward Snowden
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An army Lt. told me the national gaurd has already made it well known they will resist and refuse any and all orders related to the new weapons training laws.

Now of course we can all go start shooting each other(civil war), this will have no lasting consequences beyond many sad people mourning over bodies.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 14:15:55

Edward Snowden
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I truly believe any upcoming revolution with a positive longterm outcome has to be a (mostly) peaceful revolution involving almost every country in the world. There can be no distinguished leader. All world currencies must be abandoned. This can and will only potentially happen if there is a major worldwide recession. The more people that understand how The Federal Reserve System works, the more likely for positive change.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/21/2019 14:16:40

Edward Snowden
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https://youtu.be/8Kt2De98Bck get all lernt up
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/22/2019 07:40:41


General R.E. Lee
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The first "civil war" wasn't really a civil war or rebellion, but more accurately described as a war between the states.

As for a new large-scale armed conflict in America in the next 10-30 years, I'd say the chances are greater than 50%. If every state were to respond to a gun grab the way the people of VA have this year, we may be able to stave it off. The problem is, the people who believe in gun rights are quickly becoming a minority due to immigration and demographic shift.

Most people assume such a conflict would be Democrats vs Republicans, but those are not the real battle lines. It will be a race war.

It's helpful to examine what happened in Virginia that led to the attempted gun grab and this potentially bloody conflict. Not long ago Virginia was a solid Red state, then became purple, and now it is permanently blue like California. All the state government bodies are now controlled by Democrats, and their first priority is grabbing your guns. How did this happen? One word: Demographics. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/us/virginia-elections-democrats-republicans.html
As you can see, the people who elected the Democrats grabbing the guns are mostly immigrants from foreign countries. Whites are the only demo with a majority that supports the 2nd amendment, or the 1st amendment, or even preserving the Washington and Jefferson monuments. Since the 1960s the white fertility rate has been below replacement, so nearly all the population growth since then has been from high fertility non white immigrants. Millions of them have flooded into northern Virginia in the last few years. Whites under the age of 18 are already a minority in America. Non-white legal immigrants vote 80% Democrat, and that gets worse over the generations, not better. No amount of pandering by the GOP will change that because non-whites vote based on identity and perceived group racial interests, and the GOP is the de facto party of native white people even as they refuse acknowledge that white people have interests and problems to address too.

Trump can continue to tweet about black and hispanic unemployment every day and it will never change the fact that Hispanics always vote 70-90% Democrat or that blacks, for example, vote 90-98% Democrat. Did 98% of blacks vote for Obama because of policy and ideology or was it skin color? Think about that for a second. Even dictators don't get numbers like that.

White immigrants like Irish and Italians easily assimilated in a couple generations, quickly identifying as just Americans and splitting their votes according to their beliefs. Blacks have been in America hundreds of years and still see their own separate racial identity as more salient and meaningful than the national identity. One could question whether a group that consistently votes based on their own racial interest for generations is able to EVER assimilate to an American identity or cast a vote for something that might benefit the country as a whole but not their racial group specifically.

We now see a deadly combination of demographic change, media censorship, and normalization of racial hatred against whites that forms a recipe for a South-Africa type scenario here in America. White Americans have largely been purged of all ethnic, religious, and now national identity. If we are to survive or avoid the looming conflict, these identities must be rebuilt and restored. The first priority is an immigration moratorium currently being advocated by congressional candidates Peted'Abrosca and Joshua Foxworthy.

This week on America First w/ Nick Fuentes there was an episode where the main story is what's going on Virginia. I recommend it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ3V91rUu_Q
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/22/2019 19:21:17


byshep
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^ Today is Wednesday.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/22/2019 19:52:41


Thanos 
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What about not listening to conservative grifters on youtube?
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/23/2019 21:24:13


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Why would I listen to a guy who wants me dead, removed from my country, or treated as a second class citizen? Sounds pretty cringe
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/23/2019 22:38:16


TungstenTrex
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>unironically posts link to Nick "gas the jews" Fuentes

it's like pottery
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/24/2019 03:34:38

Israel Did 9/11
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I notice nobody here could address the points General Lee made in his post.

Nick Fuentes is really smart and entertaining.

Libtards and homosexuals smear him as a Nazi and lie about him wanting violence so they can get him censored and de platformed bc they are afraid of how effective he is at speaking the truth.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/24/2019 03:57:11


Pepe the Great
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In the current year, people in the West generally don't care enough to start a civil war, even if their liberties are threatened and their interests aren't cared about by the government.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/24/2019 13:21:16


Thanos 
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Why bother ‘debating’ someone who comes to terribly stupid conclusions like that? Who knows what other batshit things he thinks, lol. Not someone worth ‘winning over.’

I don’t need to have a ‘contest of ideas’ with a loon. Just have a laugh and move on, lol.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/24/2019 14:40:22


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Fuentes more like poo-entes B)
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/24/2019 19:17:19


TungstenTrex
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Just another stupid youtube pundit that thinks he's competent enough to lead young men off a cliff.

You never escaped your follower tendencies, you just think you have.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/27/2019 05:18:33


Strategery
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Some people in this thread think that a civil war can be good or can improve the condition of the US. Allow me to explain why this is wrong.

The economics of war are dubious to begin with. You have to take an enormous amount of natural resources, indemnities, ect. to eek out a profit in a war after you consider all of the blood and treasure you have lost. And even then, there are investments that give better returns. Also, anything gained through conquest can be taken away through conquest and other powers will be eyeing your gains. They will pounce and declare war on you when you appear weak.

Now consider a civil war. You are expending resources and capital not against an adversary but against yourself. And the other side is doing the same. If the left and right did get into a civil war in the US then they would be expending enough resources together to fight two wars against a common enemy like China. Instead they are using it to destroy their own wealth.

Libya was a stable, middle income country before it erupted into civil war. Foreign powers got involved. Now those foreign powers don't want the war to end and will make the Libyans fight each other forever over oil. Same thing happened in Syria and all over the middle east. This is what will happen over America. You don't want your country to become a battleground between China and the EU. Both sides will become so dependent on foreign military assistance that they will be turn into puppet regimes. That is the opposite of being a nationalist. And other countries will intervene, America is too damn important.

The only way to enact the kind of change that the far left or far right want in America without turning it into a third world country would be a quick, bloodless coup. And that would require getting the military 100% on your side. Highly unlikely given the militant centrism of the military.

Edited 12/27/2019 05:23:21
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/27/2019 20:24:03


Pyotr Krasnov 
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to be fair the military is pretty right wing and i could see most of the us military siding with americans instead of the government or just refusing to fight

and for the civil war being supplied by foreign powers i could see the republicans being supplied by russia and perhaps china could supply the democrats but i see those two countries seeing this as an opportunity to invade neighboring countries to expand, north korea with help of china could finally take out south korea if nato just completely disbands after the civil war ignites, but i most definitely see russia invading the baltics and ukraine.

speaking mapwise the civil war would most likely look like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630933404015263755/660214985233793024/image0.jpg the democrats have a few coastlines for supplying but i can see the republicans quickly taking these out to avoid any foreign support

and for the navy i think we could say 8/10th of it would side with the republicans so i can see a heavy blockade around democratic coastlines ob both west and eastern fronts.
how possible is a second american civil war?: 12/28/2019 04:19:59


Captain MAK Sparrow
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Really possible, but probably not gonna happen. Lots of ppl are just lazy, and I'm pretty sure that if another country went for us we'd all unite. I think...
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