"gany here is trying to find fault with theological truths about which he doesn't know very much"
I'm not trying to find faults I'm showing the flaws your religion has.

Talking of homosexuality is evil, you think it's evil just cus some random guy (who allegedly existed in 10000 H.E., allegedly claimed himself to be god's son and allegedly got killed even though he allegedly was god's son) allegedly said that.
TBH, Hinduism and Buddhism sound more upstanding and decent than abrahamic religions. They promote harmony, gender equality, accept homosexuality and you aren't even forced to accept them (ref: inquisition, crusades and jihad).

"There is a reason why you cannot win......Please stop."
You are the real winner. <3

This is my final post in this missionary thread.
Good luck and have fun trying to get into heaven, (by following sets of impossible rules your entire life). Or you might end up that unlikable inferno eternally (even though your god is omnibenevolent).
And here I'd rather be an immoral atheist than radical, sexist, homophobic, racist and many more.

Goodbye!

I'm sorry if my words were a little rude. That's probably cus I was religious at some part of life.

I only worship cthulu

by following sets of impossible rules your entire life

They aren't impossible rules. We sin at least once every day. But Jesus, the Son of God, died on the cross for mine, yours, and every believers sins. And that right there is the ultimate sacrifice. Every single man would go to hell if you sinned once, with the exception of Jesus. But, Jesus died for our sins and took the place of our sins. All the sins of the world were upon Him which made God, His Father, look away from Him.

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@ganymedes, don't make that your last post! You and everyone is welcome here!

God is knocking in a way on everyone's heart waiting for the person to accept Him. When, or if, the person does, the person will be filled with the Holy Spirit.

Being a Chistian does not make your life better or more easier. It means you have God in your heart and are going to Heaven.

@Viking: I think having God in your heart and knowing you are going to Heaven would make anybody's life substantially easier. But that's the point. Religion is there to make sure that the poor and the downtrodden continue to endure their hardships to the benefit of the elite. Look at the UK, the Queen is the head of the Church of England. Her son (Andrew) fucks little girls, and yet no one, not the police, not politicians, not even people like you or me, are doing anything about it.
Religion inhibits progress, it exists to keep the uneducated in line. Good comes from this I don't doubt it, but organised religion exists to encourage people, who it is essential always to deceive.
The Church offers rites of passage into the Heaven, through notes of confession (as I understand it you must confess if you want to go to Heaven), which are payable to the bearer only after death of course. Stop presenting unverifiable 'evidence' as conclusive evidence.

I don't want to discuss religion, that was never the point of my comments. I only want you to do this elsewhere. I am going about this as nicely as I can, please keep your religion private.

@ganymedes By that comment, you've shown us that you haven't listened to a single thing we've said. Cya.

@Marcus Easier? Watch the video in my last comment and tell me if that guy's life was easier than making lots of money in sales. Jesus Himself said that it's hard for the elite to get to heaven... just because they claim to be Christians, doesn't mean they are... their life demonstrates whether they are or not. Not sure about anyone else here, but I'm Protestant, not Catholic or Anglican... we don't need a church to be saved. When you look at the state of the so called church today, I'm glad we don't.
Edit: Where I live, it would be easier for me to be an atheist.

@Viking God isn't knocking at the door of unbelievers' hearts. In context, that verse is speaking to lukewarm believers. Christianity isn't a list of rules. Sin is falling short of the glory of God, not just doing something bad.

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By that comment, you've shown us that you haven't listened to a single thing we've said.

So, what else did you expect, me converting to christianity?
Your counter-arguments aren't even close to convincing. And I also refuse to believe that bible (that's a copy of Mesopotamian myths) is a christian book. Cuz any sane mind reading it thoroughly would be an atheist.
I guess god was pretty lonely before creating the universe roughly 10,000 years ago. I wonder what he did then and how he came into existence.

FYI: Atheism/Agnosticism increased from 0.2% in 1910 to 12.5% in 2010, meanwhile christianity saw a decline from 35% to 32% + founding fathers hated your religion and bullcrap.
TBH, christianity is like trying to fart: The more you force it the more you're likely it'll be shit. It's a natural thing.

No, I expected you not to act as though we never replied to you and say things you wrongly believe about Christianity that we've told you are wrong and we don't believe them.
Your arguments aren't even close to convincing either. Look up the youtube channel InspiringPhilosophy to explain how Christianity isn't pagan. Derek Prince, a former atheist philosophy professor at Cambridge University converted to Christianity after reading through the bible (just because it was an influential book) when he was stationed in the Middle East during WWII... "any sane mind reading it thoroughly would be an atheist."
I guess Islam is true then under your logic, since it's the fastest growing (breeding) religion. Christianity is rapidly growing in Asia and Africa, while declining in Europe and North America, because the so called church is dying here.
Edit: To clear up any possible confusion with my statement "the so called church is dying here", I mean because of people chasing after wealth (including prosperity preachers), the lack of repentance (making excuses for willingly continuing to live a sinful lifestyle), the lack of biblical preaching and knowledge of the bible, and pursuing signs and wonders over the power of the Holy Spirit.

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Acts 16:30-33 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

No, I expected you not to act as though we never replied to you and say things you wrongly believe about Christianity that we've told you are wrong and we don't believe them.
Your opinions and belief don't constitute christianity. Bible does, and it's blatantly stupid.

Your arguments aren't even close to convincing either.
As an atheist, I don't care about convincing you. But you as a christian do.

Look up the youtube channel InspiringPhilosophy...
Seems like youtube is your main source of information.
YouTube and other video-sharing sites are generally not considered reliable sources because anyone can create or manipulate a video clip and upload without editorial oversight, just as with a self-published website.

And if you like youtube that much, then watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcWR9sjBy3A

Derek Prince, a former atheist philosophy professor...
First, I don't follow him. Second I believe in individualism.

I guess Islam is true then under your logic
No, but's it's less stupid and unstable than christianity. [I will strike her children dead.]

while declining in Europe and North America, because the so called church is dying here
Good, I hope it just stops existing cuz it's the most stupid major religion. [God created earth 10000 years ago in six days, 4th day to create a small ball of rock and 5th day to create other billions of galaxies, solar systems, suns, moons, planets, moons and gas clouds. And he got tired 7th day and rested all day]

Edit: To clear up any possible confusion with my statement "the so called church is dying here", I mean because of people chasing after wealth (including prosperity preachers), the lack of repentance (making excuses for willingly continuing to live a sinful lifestyle), the lack of biblical preaching and knowledge of the bible, and pursuing signs and wonders over the power of the Holy Spirit.
The problem with you christens is that you think that christianity is the only religion, all others are sham. You should think out of box at least once, I guess your god wouldn't turn mad at you and label you a heretic.

What a stupid response.

Re: Islam
Less stupid? Promising 72 virgins and a "male member" (direct quote from the hadith) that never goes flaccid is less stupid? Saying gender is determined by which parent orgasms first is less stupid? Saying the sun sets in a muddy spring is less stupid? Saying black people are destined for hell and those who go to heaven will have their skin whitened is less stupid? Commanding people to fight against heathens unless they convert to Islam is less stupid?
Your own country was divided because of Islam.

''What a stupid response.''
You've been giving stupid responses against my arguments. And I feel like you don't even read my whole comment.

Did I say Islam isn't stupid? Moreover, I'm not here to defend Islam.

''Your own country was divided because of Islam.''
Did you even read Indian history? India got partitioned cuz of some bad leaders who had power, most secular leaders and civilians (including muslim ones) didn't support partition.

Try to prove christiany not stupid instead of showing the stupidity of other religions. A muslim would do the same thing with christianity instead of showing Islam as not stupid.

BTW, did you watch the video I linked? It actually shows how stupid bible narrations are.

Stupid are those who graduate from youtube and reddit university instead of reading theology or philosophy.

There's no point in arguing with you, you don't listen to anything we say. I did read your comment and watched the video, and there's no point in replying, because you don't listen to anything we say. For example, I said Christianity isn't a list of rules, and you replied with, "Good luck and have fun trying to get into heaven, (by following sets of impossible rules your entire life)."
I've read theology lmao. The point of recommending youtube videos is to provide a relatively short summary, not a massive essay on something you disagree with anyway.
As you said earlier, goodbye.

Linking youtube videos as a response to an argument should be illegal

I have evidence for Christ, do you want to hear it or not?

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

(@Neo we have been asked to include commentary on the verses, so this isn't just spam.)

“Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord , And whose hope is the Lord .

Jeremiah 17:7 NKJV

Commentary: Honestly, I think this is very self-explanatory. God will bless those who trust and hope in Him; the blessing might not be when we want it or how we want it, but God's plan and timing is always best, and if we hold out it will surpass our wildest dreams.

"Set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and sixty at fifty shekels of silver, according to the sanctuary shekel; for a female, set her value at thirty shekels; for a person between the ages of five and twenty, set the value of a male at twenty shekels and of a female at ten shekels; for a person between one month and five years, set the value of a male at five shekels of silver and that of a female at three shekels of silver; for a person sixty years old or more, set the value of a male at fifteen shekels and of a female at ten shekels."

Leviticus 27:3-7 NIV

Commentary: This one is also very self-explanatory. How many shekels are you worth?

Imagine being worth only 30 shekels. This meme made by 50 shekel gang.