So, in conclusion, I will ask Fizzer his opinion ( because the bible tells us to honour our earthly masters, insofar as that does not involve sinning against God), but until then I will continue to do as I have been, since I believe it is a good thing to do.

Once again, thank you for so respectfully expressing your concern!
Sincerely, LND

With all the cynical arguments that are basically just people yelling "I'm right and you suck and you should listen to me and believe me," it's nice to finally see some debate that's actually polite, one where people just share their views and try to reach a good conclusion. The point of a good argument is not to make others believe you, but to find the truth and find out what's best, in a respectful way. Everyone, take this as an example.

This was Fizzer's reply:

Hey LND,

I am OK with religious conversation in off-topic as long as the subject clearly indicates that it's a thread for religious discussion, as yours does. What I don't want is people finding a religion debate when they don't want it, such as if it inserts itself into an unrelated thread. But since someone opening your thread knows what to expect I am OK with it.

After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Revelation 7:9 NKJV

We love Him because He first loved us.

I John 4:19 NKJV

Do not hide your face from your servant; answer me quickly, for I am in trouble. Come near and rescue me; redeem me because of my foes.
—Psalm 69:17-18

Why are you cast down, O my soul? And why are you disquieted within me? Hope in God; For I shall yet praise Him, The help of my countenance and my God.

Psalms 42:11 NKJV

My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.

James 1:2‭-‬3 NKJV

amen

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends
John 15:13



What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?
Romans 8:31



For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
-Romans 8:38-39

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Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,

II Corinthians 5:18 NKJV

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 1:14 NKJV

But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

I Corinthians 15:57 NKJV

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:16 NKJV

Shout for joy, you heavens; rejoice, you earth; burst into song, you mountains! For the LORD comforts his people and will have compassion on his afflicted ones.

Isaiah (something lol) (I accidentally closed the tab xD)

When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy. And when they had come into the house, they saw the young Child with Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him. And when they had opened their treasures, they presented gifts to Him: gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

Matthew 2:10‭-‬11 NKJV

Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

Isaiah 7:14 NKJV

Jesus is King

“Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!”

Luke 2:14 NKJV

"For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace."
- Romans 6:14

"Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted."
- Hebrews 2:17-18