I don't get why the whole Lynx clan gets called out. Jo Jo didn't consult it with the other 36 Lynx members. Some people in Lynx tolerate it, some don't, everyone has their own brain.

Anyway this thread is pure gold.

I though Lynx reformed and was against stalling seeing how Krunx was complaining about Avengers stalling in CL

Dude everyone was complaining about Avengers playing to elimination and holding up the entire event, not just krunx.

Let's say we all put in the words: "NO room for stallers!" or something into the clans tagline.

I remember Masters had something like that, then half of them got punished/banned from CL for cheating. Along with Deadman and Beren who invented these rules themselves. Hypocrisy level over 9000.

Cowboy nuked his rating on MDL by mass booting which then allowed him to beat Deadman's record of 25 wins in a row, because he was getting opponents way below his level.

Too bad that Platinum didnt post anything yet. I loved how he cried for 2 years that someone spied Outlaws Skype chat and then he started spying Lynx Discord himself.

Every anti-staller here is so crystal clear lmao.

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The issue of Jo Jo stalling (a single game so far) could be easily solved by a normal talk between concerned people instead of starting this circus on the forum.

Well Rento i talked to him, receiving an answer i didn't like

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=20056133

I also get the strong impression Alexclusive is stalling whatever ladder he plays whenever he plays, i can also look for a few 1vs1 ladder games if you like

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19987174

And you are defending everyone who stalls, pointing the finger on the oh so bad incident where 4(?) masters got banned from cl after having discussed the moves of an account that booted. Please stay on topic and explain what your stance on getting stalled is, just assuming you're on the receiving end for once

I am defending stalling in 99% of cases because in 99% of cases the accusations are bullshit, like in that Pardon vs alex game you just posted. A single 3d turn makes you a staller today?

Maybe if people weren't throwing baseless accusations around, more people would still care, don't you think?

If you shout "staller!" after a single slow turn like in your example, you're not a bright person in my eyes.

If only there was a way to address the stalling "issue" with a combination of shorter per-day turns and a larger single block of banked time.

Until the Uservoice for this gets created, and all of the complicated coding to establish a banked boot system gets implimented, we are stuck with the grave injustice of people drawing out clearly lost games to influence rankings and falsely claim that they are the greatest player in warlight.

Rento you say it's only 3 days. Perfectly right. But with 17 vs 25 income with absolutely no hope that's plenty reason for me to shout staller. It's equal to one more good matchup, of which alex got plenty despite having won only 4 games. If it was 4 wins and 1 loss that next matchup will be substantially weaker. It's a complete abuse of the rating system and you know it perfectly well, otherwise you're not a bright person in my eyes.

Btw, since you like to dig out old stuff. It's nothing new you support stalling. Love that gamechat. Fits you lynx. Oh and congrats on winning the seasonal! Glorious achievement. You even pretend to be lenient despite having bagged the season at the point you decide you don't need to stall till the bitter end and win anyways

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=14305126

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No I don't care about "1 turn stalling" or "1 day stalling" like what you once saw on 2v2 ladder. You completely devalued the impact of this word. Don't expect everyone to tip-toe around you, calculating if they are allowed to PLAY a GAME for 1 more turn without some idiot creating a forum thread about this.

Like I said, if people weren't throwing baseless accusations around, more people would still care.

Are my accusations baseless in your view?

Mod you're an idiot. I had that seasonal in the bag before that game even started.

I thought I put the petty bickering to an end, but perhaps my sarcasm was a bit heavy.

Do what you want, its not against the rules to take as long as you want on every single turn.

The mechanisms are in place to prohibit people drawing out games unnecessarily. Fizzer doesn't put them in for a reason.

Yeah this discussion won't lead to anything.

Mod expects people to closely monitor all their games, fog or not, and surrender at the exact moment your chances reach 0. Not a single day later. You're obligated to know the exact moment. That's how he plays the game for fun. For me it's a symptom of some mental disorder.

I'm not trying to be a dick now, if that's your definition of fun then something is wrong with you.

And with me too because I keep responding to these threads.

Rento if you want me to make a compilation of all the games alex obviously stalled i can create one for you. I don't think he's too stupid to realize when a game is over at all. You can try to talk around it and defend stalling all you want, the community knows pretty well who's right or not. Also, insulting me doesn't prove your point.

And here we will keep disagreeing, because I don't think that anyone apart from you and a few other elitists cares about "1 turn stalling" and I don't think the community will agree with you either.

Yes I remember the ancient times when stalling was a real problem. But then people like you came, kept devaluating the word until we ended with 1 turn stalling which I just don't accept as a real thing.

I was just providing the most recent incident cause old stuff like clan league 8 isn't very exciting anymore.

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19379065

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19385190

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19495520

These are from alex last 1vs1 ladder run. Since it's not very convenient to cheat as subltile on the 1vs1 ladder as the seasonal it's probably obvious enough for you here. I don't care in the least if most other people take another 3 days even if i think it's shabby, i'd never create a thread. But if it's always the same usual suspect and his group of followers that are corrupting the mindset of fairness on the ladders, then i got a problem with it.

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@Cowboy: oh! thought it was suited for entire season;

@Rento:

Dude everyone was complaining about Avengers playing to elimination and holding up the entire event, not just krunx.

I know you like to cover up things, like you tried to cover up the FCC account swap issue when I brought it in discord and can you list who are all the "everyone" who complained? Players who go awol leave no option for teams to wait on them and I think it is common across all divisions; few games Blitz played with AI and Master Turtle came back(though he again booted) and I don't remember anyone complaining in forum or wz discord at that time.

Idk if "everyone" was complaining to TBest and the panels, but will be good to know that too. As soon as topic was brought up in forums I made sub for the time the vacation in that game was ending so the League isn't held back. If I had started complaining about how krunx forgot all about Lynx/101st stalling and suddenly got enlightenment on anti-stalling like how you're doing now, I could've delayed Q1 a lot like how the updates for Q1 was delayed.

@Santa: Gib mi presents xD
It was about to be added as a rule to not "Stall" in ladder games as it manipulates ratings and ranks; players stalling is common thing, but when it comes to manipulation of ratings one can actually get the trophy without actually winning against highest rated players. But due to not able to "define stalling" it wasn't added exactly.

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And why should I care whether alex stalled his 12th game on 1v1 ladder or not? How would it help him? Whom would it hurt? You don't get ranked until 20 games. So no I don't care about it either. What are you gonna find next, stalled auto games?

You will just keep posting any nonsense you find as long as it's this one clan you don't like. Like some machine that was programmed to do just 1 thing, repeat and repeat. This tribalism is insane.

Well if he had the skills to not lose 5 games before his 20th game i'm sure you know the result of that. Sadly he just lost too badly before he came even close to winning 20 games. At least everyone can see now what clan to join to have a save heaven for stalling. You're doing a good job. Role model rento.

Yes, but stalling would be next to impossible to prove.

The mods have enough problems ferreting out multi-account abusers, let alone punishing someone from taking too long (but not long enough to get booted) on different turns.

Its a slippery slope.

First, we start enforcing 'stalling' and someone has wins reversed in a Ladder Season because of some subjective rule interpretation of whether or not someone was stalling.

Next thing you know, Fizzer will be taking away seasonal trophies because someone manipulates end-of-season tie-breaking mechanics. Despite not breaking any rules, they will have their title stripped because someone didn't like it and the losing player didn't know how the game worked and didn't do enough to prevent losing due to the tie-breaking mechanics.

@Fairplay, you're on the naughty list.

The issue of Jo Jo stalling (a single game so far) could be easily solved by a normal talk between concerned people instead of starting this circus on the forum.

Lynx (and scumbag rak) were explaining him how to get an advantage by stalling on the seasonal. Could be easily solved by telling him not to fuck over other people to gain something for himself.

Why do I keep responding to these threads...

Honestly of all anti-stallers who wrote here so far, only Edge is clean enough to point fingers at others. Other people are just... I lack words.
Fairplay Boy excusing stalling in CL but criticising stalling elsewhere tops it all.

I'm out.

Santa claus you're right, it's impossible to prove stalling. All we have is common sense and the shaming option from the community. Since a few individuals are only looking at their own benefit this practise gets rendered useless by them.
'Is it ok since everyone can do it?' should be answered clearly with a NO!