always beware youtube intellectuals. evidence in the form of a youtube link is less than worthless.

youtube is for videos of cute animals, epic fails and stealing music. not philosophy of religion.

beware youtube intellectuals. the illiterati.

Edited 4/29/2014 17:20:27

I honestly never understood why some people have to go our of their way to denounce Christians.
If I am wrong and atheism is right then I have wasted my time. But then nothing matters because me and you are non-existant and I wouldn't be able to regret wasting my time.

However If you are wrong you are now hypothetically in hell and I am in heaven.

I would just like to say I would rather believe in a afterlife then believe nothing else happens.

@Mulva

Your argument is an empty rhetoric figure - a common place - something that people can easily nod their head to and agree upon because its normally true - but has actually no meaning in the actual context though it appears to have (as normally it is true in the majority of other cases).

What does that mean? Normally (in the vast majority of cases) i would agree with you (just as most people) but in this actual context: those links contain mostly statements from a former Oxford and Berkely professor, a member of the Royal Society who has also published works regarded to be fundamental work on his topic.

So if a former Oxford and Berkely professor lets his lectures being filmed and posted on youtube he becomes an illiterate person and all his highly distinguished arguments invalid by some magical form of tranformation? ^^

Since i guess no halfway intelligent person with common sense would be able to understand the explanation you could give for that - you truely must be more educated and brighter than him then? Probably more humble as well. ^^

Also you starting your "arguments" by ignoring the very fact i started mine with a link to an encyclopedia article, not a youtube link.

So one might make the point: so even if we would take your argument seriously and for true - you actually dont even stay consistent and true within your own set of arguments.

What does this mean? You either made a stupid (and pretty bigheaded, arrogant) ignorant statement or you actually made it by intention in an attempt to, somehow, intelligently fool and deceive people. ^^

Anything more to say? Please come better prepared before running your mouth that big.

Edited 4/29/2014 18:28:01

Blah blah blah.

There is a higher power... me!

This was merely posted and left here for people interested on the matter - which includes being willing to hear and research both sides. I wont reply to any trolling attempts nor do i have the intention to actively join a big debate actively. But a stupid half-baked attempt to discredit my posts and the arguments contained like Mulvas needed to be adressed quickly - especially if it is most likely not even written in good intention and with a true heart.

@Dubs
"If I am wrong and atheism is right then I have wasted my time. But then nothing matters because me and you are non-existant and I wouldn't be able to regret wasting my time."

I find that view to be astonishing strange but ofc interesting therefore. And would actually somehow enjoy a chat on it - but am aware it wouldnt lead to anything most probably. And as said didnt plan to join a big discussion. Cant completely resist though: if you were proven wrong and therefore would have to accept the scientific explanation for life and reality - how would that cancel reality which ofc includes both our existence? Seems like a simple contradiction to me (assumed likely reason: probably you still cant let go of the christian model, even in an hypothetic abstract experiment of thought)

Im not even going to bother with your fear of hell which (-i mean pretty obviously-) seems to be the very basis of your line of thoughts here. No person should live in fear - unless he has committed horrible acts of crime - its a frantic state of mind to be in and poorly suited to make good decisions and judgements.
I do wish you all the best!

Edited 4/29/2014 18:49:01

I am not scared of hell. I am scared of living a pointless existence which I believe is what most people want to do these days.

well good luck with finding the point to your existence then

Lol you know if you make a positive impact on something then your life has a point. No need for unproved higher beings; do with your life what you want.

colonel, take a look at your post. run-on sentences. one-sentence paragraphs. because your reading material consists primarily of youtube comments, your mind has been obliterated.

Also you starting your "arguments"

who said arguments? only you. please remember that quotation marks are for quotations only. fabricated quotations = straw man arguments.

Normally (in the vast majority of cases) i would agree with you

thank you for parenthetically defining the word "normally". i wasn't sure what that meant.

i started mine with a link to an encyclopedia article, not a youtube link.

a wikipedia link does not absolve a youtube intellectual. you think it does, which confirms you as one.

ratio of evidence as articles:videos - 1:3. ratio sufficient to hypothesise youtube intellectualism.

So if a former Oxford and Berkely professor lets his lectures being filmed and posted on youtube he becomes an illiterate person and all his highly distinguished arguments invalid by some magical form of tranformation? ^^

It is perfectly acceptable to create and to watch online videos, films and television shows. if it is your primary method of gathering knowledge by a wide margin, you are a part of the illiterati. if youtube is your primary method, your brain will become irreparably warped by videos of questionable quality and moron commenters.

why youtube videos are worthless evidence: there is no way to skim through it; it is unnavigable. You aren't able to stop and re-read things. You can't copy/paste quotes into discussions. youtube comments. and all these reasons presuppose that the video is worth watching, which is regularly not the case.

why youtube videos are less than worthless: they mark you out as a youtube intellectual.

[You think you are smarter than Richard Dawkins?] ^^

Well, I've seen some of the shit he says on his twitter account. and to me, his existential opinions are quasi-religious. aside from that, no.

That's a good view to have Arun. If you're able to hold on to it. Unproved higher beings would have the same problem as we do anyway, namely: what's the point?

Here's another tangentially relevant youtube vid just to fuck with x. Also because it's fun to watch Lawrence Krauss being a pompous dick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbD6qt2pTZ4

Edited 4/30/2014 13:42:17

I can only hope from the silence that I have saved a youtube intellectual from himself. i know i am a hero, but i do it all for the poor people who need my help, and not for the prestige.