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Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:22:50


ADDERALL XR
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So, basically, the points made here have been that the monotheist believes in their god because:

To be blunt It depends on the monotheist, this may come as a surprise but theyre all different and have different motivations and judging processes.


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Seriously? This completely dodges the question by stating that people subjectively chose their preferences about god. So, it's an opinion and they fail to look at things critically and impartially.

This admits that monotheists have absolutely no reason to believe their god over another.
There it lies, plain and simple.

In conclusion, some people are crazy enough to think that they can determine a real thing by their own "judging processes". Honestly, this can only be described as sheer insanity.
Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:23:17


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Yes you are being narrow minded. If you had empathy, imagination or diverse life experience you would be able to answer this question yourself. I, incaman and Richard sharpe all gave a plausible answer, we are not religious. You expect someone to justify themselves (1), with logic (2), to you (3). You are too lazy to climb down from your ivory tower and dirty your hands mixing with the intellectual peasantry in order to see things from their point of view.

Edited 4/15/2014 16:25:47
Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:31:16


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Amazing that no one seems to see the correlation between this thread and julkorn's loaded evolution post. Or at least those who have noticed the obvious haven't chosen to point it out.

Both are asking hypothetical questions in such a fashion as to make it completely and utterly impossible to truly answer them.

Edited 4/15/2014 16:31:45
Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:34:29


professor dead piggy 
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coolie:
I attacked the assumption inherent in the flawed question. It was a low ball so dodging it was a no-brainer. People do subjectively arrive at their preferences, you included. Some people do not asses information from a position of emotional detachment like you do. Its different and equally valid, so are the conclusions that they come to. They aren't insane. Conrad and Myhand both do it.
Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:34:41


Taishō 
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Hence the reason PS called YAAT, because this thread is about entertaining Aranka :)

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Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:44:59


Richard Sharpe 
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Yes, Haupt, because four random letters convey such significant meaning.

Unless of course those four random letters are xkcd.
Monotheism: 4/15/2014 16:51:24


Taishō 
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Well, he just skipped the explanation and went right to calling it out :P
Monotheism: 4/15/2014 22:36:11


Addy the Dog 
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piggy: born-again jungian.
Monotheism: 4/16/2014 00:11:50


ADDERALL XR
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Ah.
I wasn't bothering with whether you were religious or not, piggy. I was just using that quote because that summed it up pretty nicely what was going on.

Maybe I don't like opinions because I am exposed to a place where mine aren't very welcome. (It's a Catholic school) Also, whenever I get emotionally attached I usually blow up, so at least I've found a way to cope. I was baptized Catholic anyway. Tell me I never really understood Christianity. I probably didn't, but whatever. At least they tried to lure me in with their Sunday schooling.

Yeah, that last part I said earlier wasn't so cool. But, how are they equally valid methods? You can't just suppose things about the universe because you subjectively feel it to be that way. Well you can, but it won't be true.

Edited 4/16/2014 00:13:13
Monotheism: 4/16/2014 02:22:18


professor dead piggy 
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Supposing things about the universe because you feel it to be that way does lead to true conclusions. Especially when dealing with other people, an area where logic struggles. This thread is a testament to that. You keep saying subjective in a derogatory way, but everyones viepoint is subjective whether youre a touchy feely person or a thinker.

No zealot like a convert.

Edited 4/16/2014 03:15:48
Monotheism: 4/18/2014 00:25:25


The National Socialist
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There is definitely no god
Monotheism: 4/18/2014 23:48:53


Beren Erchamion 
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[citation needed]
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 01:51:15


Ace Windu 
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How monotheistic is christianity? God is apparently three beings and people also worship and pray to saints, to Mary, to angels.

It's polytheism dressed in a onesie.
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 02:00:02


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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The saints are not God. The Saints, are merely average men and women, who proved to be amazing followers of the faith and as such able to carry out miracles by the divine power of the lord.

If you have any real questions on Catholics and the Catholic Church, please ask me, I am a Catholic and have gone to a Catholic School for years.
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 02:14:14


Ace Windu 
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Gods in all but name. They carried out miracles as you say.

I have no questions on the catholic church, I know it well enough.
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 02:16:37


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@Ace: I'm atheistic but I did have to go through Catholic teachings from my family, so I'll answer your question from the Catholic point of view.

How monotheistic is christianity? God is apparently three beings and people also worship and pray to saints, to Mary, to angels.


According to the Catholics, God has 3 distinct forms. God is all-powerful, so existing as 3 different entities is not exactly a hard thing for him to do. You have God the creator, God the son of man (Jesus), and God the spirit (Holy Spirit). It's all the same God, however, different forms with different purposes.

Angels, Mary, and the Saints are not worshiped as Gods. They are not all-powerful. If you believe that we all have a spirit that goes to Heaven, then calling upon these people with prayers is like asking guidance from a specific person who's knowledgeable in a specific field. You can pray to anyone, even your deceased loved ones. However, you wouldn't be worshiping them as all-powerful, all-knowledgeable beings which created everything.
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 02:40:37


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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THANK YOU, I had no way of explaining it that way.

people have a misconception of Catholicism that we "worship" Mary and the Saints

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Monotheism: 4/19/2014 03:34:07


Taishō 
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Ace and Lolowut, answered that in a previous post.

#ReadBeforePosting
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 14:51:18


Ace Windu 
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As I said, I do not need to be told about catholicism, I know it as well as you Lolowut. My point remains that it is not really monotheistic, it just jumps through semantic hoops to maintain that it is monotheistic.

The 3-in-one god is the most glaring example of hoop jumping. And God does not exist in three separate forms as you say, three separate entities make up god.

Leo, I do not know what catholic church you are a part of but Mary is most certainly worshipped in the catholicism I grew up with. A defining feature of the catholic denomination is the veneration of Mary as the mother of god, the blessed virgin etc. Idols are built to her (and to the saints). She is said not to have died but to have ascended into heaven.

Now someone will of course point out the hoops, as they already have, and completely miss the point. Tell me the difference between the position of the saints and Mary and angels as opposed to the position of minor deities in polytheistic religions. You pray to Anthony to help you find something. Why not directly to god? Is he busy?

@Taisho
#post only if you have something to say
Monotheism: 4/19/2014 15:34:58


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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She is worshiped as the mother of Jesus, not as a god. She is to be revered and prayed to, she, however, is no God.
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