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Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 15:22:50

JSA 
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I like that idea Lobstrosity. I would definitely join it.
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 15:23:22


Guiguzi 
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lobster: defend the money!
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 16:04:28


lobstrosity 
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tournament created
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 16:54:37


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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I'm going to join (obviously). I've never won a tourney though, first time for everything though.
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 17:51:19


Blue 
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Nice job, lobstrosity.
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 17:55:56

Hennns
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Thank you =), lobsity
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 19:16:30


Moros 
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Thanks!
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 20:38:35

NZPhoenix (AHOL) 
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i told someone who I play with a bit that once i was out of a free membership tournament that I would buy membership, so to all who are unamused by me...... You may be seeing more, not less of me, sorry about that.

I understand 30 dollars goes much further than it does in some places. I've had this conversation with some, it does make me feel guilty being in the united states. I hope people not from the states win, because 30 US dollars elsewhere goes a lot lot further. And there are plenty of worth players who may come from places not as advantaged as the US in terms of economic value.

I know my most recent bar tab/night out/ticket to the game goes well beyond 30.

to lobstrosity.... if you win, perhaps do as I once saw once a best of five with players you seem worthy of free membership?
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 21:22:49


lobstrosity 
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to BostonBruins- god forbid I do win my own tournament I will certainly devise a new way to provide membership to a worthy player. Perhaps a round robin for those who make it to the sweet 16. But lets not get ahead of ourselves, the gates have yet to open.
Free Membership?: 4/14/2012 21:25:08


lobstrosity 
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And you are all welcome, of course. Perhaps I can start a trend of paying it forward when the means are available :)
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 01:16:58


[WM] Dazed & Insane 
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That is a good idea Lob, I like the idea of having to defeat the creator if you want the prize.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 02:30:07


Guiguzi 
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Big 1v1 tournaments are cool. But let's cut to the chase: only 10-30 of the 500+ players joining such a tournament have a chance to win. The rest are cannon fodder. And if you are one of the 10-30 and are eliminated due to bad luck, you have to wait for the next single- or double-elimination tournament to have a chance to win a membership.

I think it'd be great if somebody made a membership tournament like this: http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2081.

These are 99% of the top non-members capable of winning such a tournament. I'd guess there are less than five people not invited to the above tournament who could actually win it.

Is anyone interested in making such a tournament? Adding light fog would be cool (so people could follow the games).

Or, is somebody willing to provide a membership for the winner of the above tournament? (I wish I could, but I live off $50 a week for food & transportation and cut back too much on expenses as it is.)
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 03:11:47

JSA 
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Gui, if you really want to get the best players youll have 20 round robins and the winner of each will play in the championship round robin. That would take a very long time but will tell you the top player better than anything else will.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 04:12:43


Guiguzi 
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you're assuming there are 400 top players and nobody can differentiate player 1 from player 400.

hhh and i have hosted about 20-25 1v1 RRs for top-notch players and another 20 or so regular 1v1 tournaments. i am less uncertain about who can and can't win such a tournament.

in fact, for the 1v1 RRs that hhh or i host, the players could be roughly broken down in this way: more than 80% of those invited deserve an invitation bc they offer good competition; less than 20% deserve an invitation bc they are capable of winning the tournament.

it takes more than good looks and a decent understanding of the 1v1 game to beat guys invited to the above tournament. someone who thinks he is good but who has never faced these guys before would be lucky to win 5 of 19 games.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 04:48:59


lobstrosity 
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I'm not trying to start a heated debate with the tournament I am running. I am doing a 512 person tournament because that is how I won mine and I want to continue that tradition.

I don't really want to limit the tournament to the 32 or so good players I know, as I am sure there are other good players out there. Maybe you guys have a better understanding of who exactly belongs in that top player group, but I don't want to leave any deserving player out just because I have never played them.

Fine maybe luck will make it so "the best" player does not win, but defining "the best" has been a continuous problem for us (look at Gui's best 1v1 player RR attempts). I just want a good player that can compete in the ladder to win, and I am sure that will happen regardless of luck.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 07:13:52


Guiguzi 
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this thread seems to be a catch-all for any new membership tournament. so i added ideas.

i like any tournament that provides an opportunity for players to win a membership. i won my membership in a best of 7 series. it was fun. i view a round-robin as a combination of a best of series and an elimination tournament: why not combine the fun of both into one tournament? the more free membership tournaments going at once, the better: i know of at least 20 people i wish had memberships.

but why should 1v1 games determine so much? a random team membership tournament for 'the best teammate' would be cool too:

- get a certain number of players that meet a certain open seat requirement (eg, 55%+ winning % in 2v2s, 3v3s and 4v4s, 200+ total games played).
- invite each player to a fixed number of random team 3v3s and/or 4v4s (the more games, the better: 10-15 games would be good), with 2-4 games going at once per player.
- whichever player wins the most games gets a membership (the organizer shouldn't disclose results until the end, though).
-in case of a tie: the top 2+ players can draft teammates from among participating players and play a best of 3 series (if there are 2 top players) or have a round-robin (if there are 3 or more top players).
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 12:07:54

JSA 
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Also Evreux, your tournament doesnt include the best players. no offense to rosston but he is not as good as many nonmembers that you didnt invite to this tournament. Kantos, Master, and DagenDaDragon are better than rosston just to name a few.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 17:03:21

[x] rosston
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I don't like being singled out. You should've made your point without singling anyone out, just saying I think these players, x,y,z are worthy would have sufficed.

I think I should and will be able to hold my own in this tournament, even if i don't win.

I appreciate the invite, and unless am asked to leave plan on giving it a go.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 17:22:13


Guiguzi 
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lol.
Free Membership?: 4/15/2012 17:27:32

JSA 
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I am sorry rosston but youre one of the few ive played out of those invited and some others who werent invited are better than you. I think you will be able to do good in the tournament, I was just meaning that some very good nonmembers have been left out. Good luck in it. I hope you do surprise some people and win it!
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