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Need Help With Map Building.: 3/27/2012 23:08:10

Bittererspartan
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I need help with two things at this point of the map.

1. I need help on taking to groups of territories Ive made and putting them together with no gaps. Is there a way to do that or is it all freehanded and takes alot of time and practice?

2. I also need to know how to combine territories in a group but still have the boundry lines showing..

I have looked for ways to do it I'm using Inkscape if that helps any. Am creating a rather large map and would appreciate any help anyone could give.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/27/2012 23:12:27

Bittererspartan
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NVM I figured out that the warlight page does it for you I just didnt realize it.

Sorry for wasting your time.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 00:19:46


Richard Sharpe 
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Bitter, I assume your second point meant creating bonuses and that you were successful in doing so.

As for the first point, there is no means I am aware of to merge the borders of two existing territories and make them align properly. There is a way to carve up a larger territory into two smaller ones with perfect borders but that wouldn't work given the situation you described.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 01:37:33

Bittererspartan
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Appreciate the help man I had Thought I understood but I was completely wrong. Of Course and this map I am wanting done is HUGE and i would love to do it right because I love the books but as of right now what i got isn't an entire fail but not exactly what I want lol
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 01:58:27


Richard Sharpe 
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I hear ya. Are you tracing the map from something then? And how much have you already done?
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 02:13:15

Bittererspartan
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Ya it is a bigger map i am tracing it. I got a decent outline and im going to try to get some of the provinces set up and do a rough test run so i can iron out the the deployment numbers but inkscape is giving me a run for it lol
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 02:20:01


Richard Sharpe 
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If all you have done so far is the main border then you are golden. Get the continent boundaries done and then let me know and I can walk you through some tools that will make your life easier.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 02:34:58

Bittererspartan
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ya right now i have the entire map outlined not including the inner territories so i got one giant territory lol it will be a bit but man i do appreciate it i am completely new at this
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 02:50:40


Richard Sharpe 
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Okay, what you need to do now is break the large mass into bonuses... do this using the division tool in Inkscape. Then you inset those bonuses to get adjacent borders... it will mess some areas up so manual tweaking may be needed. Then break the bonuses down further using the division tool and voila.


Division Tool (Ctrl /):
I recommend you play with this first to learn how it works. Draw a square or circle and then draw another shape over that (I recommend the Bezier curve tool to make the shapes) then use the division tool. It should break the first square into two separate entities with one being just the overlap of the two shapes. This will make perfectly overlapping borders... it's what I used for my [Ireland map](http://warlight.net/Map.aspx?ID=3465)

Inset Tool (Ctrl ( ):
Again, play around with this tool before using. I recommend using the results of your division tool testing to test the inset tool. All this does is move the borders of a territory inwards as much as you direct it to. With a soft touch you should be able to get the borders adjacent or very nearly so. I would recommend uploading an early attempt at this onto Warlight so you can see how it handles the adjacent borders (what looks good in Inkscape doesn't always translate to Warlight).

Hopefully you understood all that
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 03:06:49

Bittererspartan
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ya man i appreciate it that seems to be self explanitory and that ireland map was huge man im gonna do like 30 provinces and see how they look and play to get a feel for the process. if you have any more advice i am willing to listen you seem to know your stuff
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 04:37:55

Bittererspartan
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Well it didnt load i got over half of it done and the file got corrupted... talk about mad i coulda killed someone so i gotta start all over but i got a good idea of what i am doing now thanks
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 12:13:21


Moros 
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There is a way to make territories have perfect borders when they first don't. But it's a more slow way than it would be had you made the territories perfect from the start.
Here's an example:
Let's assume I'm making an earth map, and I have two territories drawn:
![](http://i41.tinypic.com/2ntzd4g.png)

As you can see the borders don't overlap that well, but I think the right territory is closer to reality than the left one. Now, to make the left one overlap perfectly with the right, I first create a duplicate of the right territory by by selecting it and pressing CTRL+D. Then I double-click the territory I think has a faulty border, to go in the nodes mode, like this:
![](http://i41.tinypic.com/15xqoo4.png)

And I drag the corresponding nodes across the border with the right territory, until there's no more gap, like this:
![](http://i42.tinypic.com/142a3dl.png)

Then I select both territories (not by dragging a box around them, this makes the method fail. You click one of them, then hold SHIFT and click the other one), and use this tool, under the paths menu:
![](http://i43.tinypic.com/4i0ioj.png)

Once again, I have no idea how it's called in English, but you can recognize the symbol.
Now the result should look something like this:
![](http://i43.tinypic.com/20u25jp.png)

Don't be afraid, you didn't screw anything up, the copy of the right territory is still there beneath the thing you've just created! Now, go in the nodes mode again by double-clicking it, and select a few nodes that belong to the right territory, and press DELETE. You don't need to select all of them, a few will do. Now, this action will leave you with a long, curved line, not anywhere near any territory borders. Just click it, press DELETE, repeat until it's gone. And the result is this:

![](http://i43.tinypic.com/2r3fo7r.png)

Sometimes, the last step may cause you to delete nodes belonging to the wrong territory. But, as you grow some experience with Inkscape, you should be able to fix it quite easily.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 12:28:22


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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In English it's called 'exclusion' Moros.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 12:40:17


Moros 
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Ok, thanks :)
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 14:41:36


Richard Sharpe 
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Good call on that Moros... haven't used that trick in that fashion but did similar with the lakes on the Ireland map to make them cut out from the bonus. Will have to keep that in mind.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 16:27:36


Min34 
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Moros is dutch?
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 16:47:21


TBest 
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Ja, das ist richtig.
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 16:55:08


Moros 
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Jazeker, indeed, stimmt & vrai!
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 17:54:14

Bittererspartan
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Well i got a rough draft of it right now missing some of the other areas but the rough draft is functional not yet completely. I decided to free hand the rough draft cuz i wanted the boundries to look like a map. i cant express my thanks on the help this program has given me hell i wish corell could do this i know how to do that program lol
Need Help With Map Building.: 3/28/2012 18:02:50

Bittererspartan
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This is the map i am using and most of the smaller territorys i am trying to base names off the city but there are some gaps i have come up with names for eventually i wanna learn (after i finish all of the territorys and kingdoms i wanna put in the circles for a capitol so i need to figure that bull out later too but this is the map ( http://images.wikia.com/axisandallies/images/1/1e/VARIE-Midkemia_Map_2.jpg ) and i used the basic height and width for it so it is rather large.
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