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Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 16:05:41


Moros 
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Here's a new map: http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=11029

As you can see, the description is entirely in Czechian :(
I can't read it, nor select the text to ask Google Translate. I wonder why Fizzer even lets this map publish with the current description that only 2% of Warlight Users know.
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 16:28:49

wigibob
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I completely aggree with you moros this shouldn't really be allowed there are three new maps which have the description in foregn, and what language is is in anyway?
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 16:31:53


Richard Sharpe 
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Czechian?

Clearly EVERYTHING must be in English. After all, only anglophones play the game...
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 17:10:23

RvW 
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It is kinda "hospitable" (sorry, don't know a better word) to allow people to use their own language / not force them to use English. However, I wouldn't mind if it were at least encouraged to, in that case, include a description in English *as well*.

(@Moros: It's simply called "Czech", not "Czechian" :p And it's readable by considerably more than 2% of the users; Polish and Czech (as well as Polish and other Slavic languages) are similar enough for Poles to understand at least the general gist of it. Of course, English is still readable by much, *much* more people.)

In the meantime, making the text selectable (so it can be copy-pasted to Google Translate) would of course be a big help. Maybe make a Uservoice of it?

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Just for the hell of it, I manually copied it to Google Translate, here's the result (after cleaning it up a little):

|> This is a small map of the Czech Republic, broken down by region.
By the way, I would give together such a Slovak Czech community.
For more information contact me on skype where my name is Vondy, or mail tfvondy@seznam.cz
Enjoy your game.

Doesn't look like you missed too much critical information... Reading the Czech and making a few reasonable assumptions I got everything important except that it was broken down by region (which was clear from the map itself anyway) and I wasn't sure why he mentionad Slovakia. Consider it a nice chance to practice your language skills. :p

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On a not-entirely-related note, I'm not sure how much I like every territory being a bonus...
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 20:30:46


Min34 
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I know it is better for us if it is in english, but this are the real names of the terretories. so accually most english maps shouldnt be english. (of course it is more usefull when they are)
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 20:34:31


Richard Sharpe 
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min34... the complaint wasn't in regards to the territory names but was about the description in the left panel.
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 20:40:54


Min34 
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ow srr didnt see that. but does that matter so much??
Map description in foreign language: 3/5/2012 23:41:04


Lurtz
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well,
as first, as someone allredy stated it is Czech, not czechian
as second, i do not see problem in it, map descrition does not have inpact on gameplay, it is just telling what the map is and where did it came from, and i personaly very rarely read it. a i guess that most of other players do not read it too.
Map description in foreign language: 3/6/2012 16:44:49


Ironheart
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i don't mind if it is in another language i do sup[port making a lot more things copy able 
Map description in foreign language: 3/6/2012 19:33:42

wigibob
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I have nothing against it being in anothwer language but I think it would be better if they do put it in another language put it in english aswell so everyone can understand it
Map description in foreign language: 3/6/2012 19:41:56


Richard Sharpe 
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wigi... you are assuming that they know English well enough to put it in English as well.

And by that logic, shouldn't all map descriptions written in English also be put into other languages so that everyone can understand them?
Map description in foreign language: 3/6/2012 20:30:06


Moros 
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Okay, next time I'm making a map I'll put all translations from Abhkazian to Zulu in it.
Map description in foreign language: 3/6/2012 20:45:57

RvW 
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|> And by that logic, shouldn't all map descriptions written in English also be put into other languages so that everyone can understand them?

No, not if you take into account the implicit assumption that English is the de facto lingua franca of international communications (and, by extension, the Internet).
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 08:23:10


Flesius9517
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http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=4533

Map description is in Estonian, not English.
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 09:32:45

RvW 
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Ehm, that thing doesn't even have a description... (We're talking about the description, shown in the left panel after clicking "Preview Map", not the names of territories and bonuses.)
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 10:31:23

wigibob
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if they don't know english they can just put it into google translate or something like that can't they?
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 10:42:18


Moros 
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You can't copy the map description, so it would be nearly impossible when working with Chinese or Cyrillic letters.
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 12:37:19


Perrin3088 
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I agree with one point of this discussion.. the text should be selectable so that it can be google-translated..

the -only- real reason I could see for forcing people to -not- use a foreign language, would be to ensure the cleanliness of the descriptions of languages that fizzer may or may not understand.. Beyond this reasoning, I think that descriptions should be written in whatever the writer is most comfortable with..

Sadly, this same exception could be used for territory names, which Poland, Big clearly is a prime example..
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 13:43:25


Flesius9517
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See http://warlight.net/Map.aspx?ID=1828

It has description
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 13:53:44

wigibob
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just write it up in google translate then (I am talking about the map maker) and then put the description in both languages
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 14:10:25

Hennns
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@Moros

I don`t see the problem here, since I could easely use google translete (copy+paste) way does it not work for you??
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 14:42:04


Richard Sharpe 
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The 'offending' text has apparently been removed.

I honestly don't understand why people were so upset over this... must EVERYTHING be in English now?
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 14:55:46

RvW 
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E88B3EC wrote:
|> It has description

Ah, apparently the update didn't just create a new [map description](http://warlight.net/Map.aspx?ID=1828) it also tweaked the old [preview map](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=4533) (now called "examine this map") screen; removing the description from there. My apologies, when I said it doesn't have a description I was looking in the wrong place. On the bright side, that means that descriptions are now easily selectable (read: easily copy-pastable to Google Translate), pretty much the suggestion made in this thread.

@Hennns: Until yesterday, the text was in a different location, where it was not selectable; until yesterday, Google Translating required someone to manually copy the text (like I did for Poland Big).

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Perrin wrote:
|> the -only- real reason I could see for forcing people to -not- use a foreign language, would be to ensure the cleanliness of the descriptions of languages that fizzer may or may not understand..

Isn't that problem much easier solved with a "Report map" button (or, assuming this is a pretty rare problem, with an email to fizzer@)? If nobody takes offence, it's not a problem (like bad language in private chat with people who don't mind and therefore won't report you), the moment somebody gets offended, it can be verified quick enough.
Map description in foreign language: 3/16/2012 15:16:24

Hennns
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OH, I see I was a bit outdated.

RvW +1
Map description in foreign language: 3/17/2012 16:50:45

{CZ-SK} Vondy
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Hi, I created this map.
I thought, all dont have to be in english.
For example Poland or Imperium Romanum is in Polish.
But if you want description in english, ok.
I am going to write english description.
Map description in foreign language: 3/17/2012 17:01:39


Ironheart
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on the new warlight on map pages you can translate
Map description in foreign language: 3/17/2012 17:19:23


Moros 
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@Ironheart

We already knew that...
Map description in foreign language: 3/17/2012 17:24:54

{CZ-SK} Vondy
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yes, you can translate, but I rewrote it.

New description is:

Toto je malá mapa Česka, rozdělená na kraje.
Česká republika vznikla rozpadem Československa v roce 1993.
Každé území je podle skutečného kraje (kromě středočeského kraje, který byl rozdělen na 2). Každé území má vlastní bonus, který je obvykle 1.

English:
This is a small map of the Czech Republic, divided into counties.
Czech Republic was created by disintegration of Czechoslovakia in 1993.
Each territory is like real county (besides Středočeský kraj, which is devided into 2 counties). Each territory has its own bonus, which is usually 1.



What do you think about it? It is OK?
Map description in foreign language: 3/17/2012 17:41:55


Moros 
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Yup, I don't care what you put in the description, as long as we can understand it.
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