At this point, I'm inclined to support a division of Ukraine into two distinct states. After all, a real nation has a common history, culture, and language. With east and west Ukraine, this is not the case. They have no common interest, so each should be allowed to go their own way.

Otherwise there will be long-term trouble, like in Spain (Basques), Belgium (Flemish and Vallones), UK (England, Scotland, North Ireland), Russia (Chechens etc).

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.575775

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Ukraine was, is and will be part of Russia
deal with it

Why do people blame brussels? Why do they think Belgium doesn't exist? We don't have the charisma of a damp rag and appearance of low grade bank clerk! Then people ask 'How are we?' well It seems like nobody in Europe has ever heard about us? just that little country Belgium. Well I didn't vote for the extrem right party!Is this democracy? Well it isn't ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

The worst case scenario (and the most probable at this Point9, is if Russia deciedes to go in with Military, as they did in Georgia 2008... This is a really scary situation right now

A real nation can exist as a will nation too, if you look on Switzerland with his completely different languages, cultures and history of their parts.

In the Ukraine it seems for me to lack of a will for to find a middle-way between the political positions of west and east. If they can't find a middle-way, which involves both sides and everyone can be happy with it, the ping-pong-politics will fail. The russian and european plus american contrasting positions doesn't make it better. What if the east part manages to take back the power again? Shall the country be lead from now on just in the way which is right for the west? Then a division would be necessary for the health of the peoples..

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Will nations can exist, at least if they make effort to put their differences aside. How that will play out long-term is still questionable.

Switzerland just voted to limit immigration to their country because they have problems with their growing minorities.

Party of the Regions: Janukovych has betrayed and plundered Ukraine.

For Ukraine’s revolutionaries: Beware a Russian backlash: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bd40afe2-9c93-11e3-b535-00144feab7de.html#axzz2uA3h0Gfc

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[The vote was about to end or replace a single treaty with EU about european immigration. The aim is nearly to restore the situation as it was before and it is actually with every other states from other continents. There are no consequences for non-european peoples. It's no vote against minorities. It is against endless growing economy with building on cost of nature. The economy can't grow without more immigration since the birth amount of inhabitants (inclusive foreign peoples) is too low. Probably it can be viewed too as "**** the EU", ending relations with them -> meaning the political less democratic system. Personally i'm wondering about the EU when they are calling for democrazy in the Ukraine while they won't come clear with it in negotiations with Switzerland]

A russian backlash.. Is this necessary?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukrainian-parliament-after-ousting-president-tries-to-consolidate-power-frees-prisoners/2014/02/23/9246255c-9ca6-11e3-9080-5d1d87a6d793_story.html

"On Sunday, U.S. national security adviser Susan E. Rice warned that Russian troop intervention in Ukraine would be a 'grave mistake.' "

Otherwise there will be long-term trouble, like in UK (England, Scotland, North Ireland),

Yeah, like those English separatists. Always trying to wrestle power back from, uh ... wales. And the SNP are fucking terrifying, I'm scared to walk the streets at night with those guys always, uh ... standing for elections in Scotland.

What's wrong X, are you still mad that you were exposed as a misogynist? It's not my fault, you know, you did it yourself.

That's why people were so kind as to suggest you should take anger management classes. Did you? I guess not. Next time you write something that you think is funny, stop and count to ten. If you still think it is funny, stop and count to ten. If you still think it is funny, you can post it to the forums.

Best wishes

Yanukovych is history. The Party of the Regions is gearing up for the May 25th election, even if the constitutional/legal nature of it all is questionable. Now Merkel, Putin and others seem to want to prop up Timochenko. Is this the right thing to do? Is she healthy enough? Is she too corrupt, too emotional, too vengeful to rise to the challenge? I'm skeptical. There must be other, better options for a president who can unify the country.

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it's all still very funny. ask me again tomorrow though, i might sustain a head injury and lose my sense of humour/grip on reality, as presumably happened to you

Brussels sucks :p

it's all still very funny. ask me again tomorrow though, i might sustain a head injury and lose my sense of humour/grip on reality, as presumably happened to you

ahaha, ok, if you think that :)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/22/yulia-tymoshenko-ukraine/5727621/

Who is Yulia Tymoshenko

Over 2,000 Russian soldiers land in Crimea, Ukraine declares it an armed invasion!

Dear Lord, if 2,000 is an armed invasion what is 1 million? If I had a military base in the Ukraine this is about the time I would send a few extra thousand to make sure mobs don't go burning my sensitive espionage equipment to the ground, could cost tens of millions to replace.

I guess you could say the Russian Premier is really Putin' on a show for the world, someone wanna go splitskies on a XL popcorn?

As long as it is salted.

Ukraine is going to prepare his military. Another six thousand russian soldiers added into the area. US warns Russia. European governments do prepare a meeting.

I think Putin is playing an awefule provocative game or he's gone mad and does risk everything..

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Oh please, as if Europe will do anything. Central Europe's main natural gas supply comes from Russia and it's the middle of winter, you think they wanna piss Russia off?

And really, I think there are more than a few Europeans who see Ukraine and Belarus as the western-most provinces of Russia anyhow >.>

Not to mention that Obama can barely pay the police and firemen in his country, he's not gonna start a war with Putin and Putin knows it. If he decides to invade Ukraine there will be a lot of of outcry, but other than "Bad Putin, shame on you for picking on poor little Ukraine" there won't be much else. No one in the EU will sanction Russia, they can't afford to.

P.S. Master L, salted with butter sound okay?

Edited 3/1/2014 13:25:56