It doesn't help that left wing politics is inserted into school. The academics are defenseless against it since they can comprehend the material and have already reached an understanding that the road to success is paved by academic access i.e. mastering course material. Gifted IQ doesn't necessarily imply a possession of the critical thinking skills sufficient to reject mainstream narratives though it does increase the likelihood that one will possess critical thinking skills. Actually, you typically see the gifted academic leftists possessing the rudiments of critical thinking. They're the Bernie Sanders people for the most part. They support organic movements, but only those which still conform to the guiding concepts of the curriculum such as the liberation of women, the civil rights movement etc.

The animosity created by postmodernism and feminism in the gifted program would be the undoing of any hope for creating a cohesive society. The females in the program are the hit the hardest by the whole career over children idea and the males are at risk for becoming soyboys or nazi weebs - hopeless. The people who should be raising the next generation tend to get psychologically sterilized.

I typed out a long comment defending the Gifted program, but then I refreshed the page and saw Wulfy's second post. No way to debate it now- something definitely went wrong.

I'll share my experience with the gifted program. One that has infuriated me was when the school fucked me over with a summer class program.
So it's the end of the year, I'm worrying about being a freshman and my classes and the clubs and my friends. I wanted to be a physicist or some shit (now I realize physics is not my strong suit). I decided to aim for the higher mathematics and science classes. Honors, AP, etc. In 8th grade they separated the students by their math ***skills*** in 6th grade. One group took algebra I, the other took geometry. 9th grade would be split between geometry and algebra II. So there I was, wanting to utilize the summer class program to learn geometry over the summer and learn algebra II in 9th grade. I look through the school site, trying to find it. I can't. I tell my math teacher, who is quite fond of me, and she calls (the school?) to ask about the program. She hangs up. She informs me that they aren't doing it anymore. Oh well I guess, there goes my opportunity.
>Ask the h0t rich indian chick who I've been autistically trying to be friends with
>She is in gifted for some reason
>Tell her about the summer program thing
>She tells me that she has to do that over the summer and that she is pissed because of it
S E E T H I N G
This cunt got an automatic free pass to learning algebra II in her freshman year just because she is in gifted.
All because I screwed up my 6th grade math grade.

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when I rant like that it means I am on amphetamines

knyte will regret backing down

One problem in IQ is that it favors generalists over specialists. For example, someone might be able to compute the higher homotopy groups of some insane spaces, but they might still be ranked low on IQ simply because they havent given the thought to the things which are considered "common sense". Believe me.. this person is extremely intelligent, irrespective of the results of the IQ test.. he just thinks about different things than normal people which is why he scores less.

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I've seen very smart people simply give up because they were considered "slow" by their teachers. I almost did, but then I realized that I wasn't the only one; that I could amount to something. Daily reminder that Einstein, Edison, and Newton were total spergs. Edison had serious anger issues. Newton died a virgin. Einstein was seen as cruel to his wife and kids, though his mind, he was being caring. I've also seen normies give up simply because they think that "smart people win, dumb people lose."

Also, you can often find multiple patterns to solve the same problem, which makes the test annoying.

Fun exercise: Find 2 different patterns that complete this "IQ" question https://cdn.123test.com/iq-test/screenshots/2.png.. there is incomplete information here.. so such questions seem foolish to me.

For example, one way to proceed to find an unconventional answer is to find a polynomial that interpolates the first so many numbers at integer intervals, and let the next number be the y coordinate of the polynomial at time n+1

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Fun fact: Poincare was so annoyed at such questions in his entrance exam to university that for each question he wrote the same answer: "this question has no unique solution". He was denied admission.

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My school has me do the most trivial shit, it's really stupid.

given that the main reason for schools are learning

triv·i·al
ˈtrivēəl/Submit
adjective
of little value or importance.
"huge fines were imposed for trivial offenses"
synonyms: unimportant, banal, trite, commonplace, insignificant, inconsequential, minor, of no account, of no consequence, of no importance;

My school has me do the most trivial shit, it's really stupid. Given that the main reason for schools are learning

Trivial shit= shit that doesn't relate to anything and/or misses the point/purpose and/or simplifies the implications.
Normies today are too ignorant and mind to discuss anything even nearing the realm of philosophy. The only things that my school didn't sugarcoat were 9/11, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Holocaust, and the Bataan death march. They never even mentioned the absolute horror of Nanking.

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when I rant like that it means I am on amphetamines.

Your writing is quite lucid while you are on amphetamines.

Edited 5/2/2018 00:59:20

I literally don't feel a thing while on amphetamines; besides being on a man-period all the time.

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what any of those things have to do with philosophy is beyond me, but hey what do i know about philosophy

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I never said that they were related to it. I meant meaningful conversation which is *near* the realm of philosophy. Just a simple conversation about the morality of it, the consequences, the cruelty of human nature, and why order is preventing us from becoming savages.

I'm labelled as "gifted and talented", but nothing worthy has come of it, except for once. It's just become a tag that appears on the teachers' rosters as far as I've experienced. I remember having to take a test for this when I was about 13, and from then it granted me admission into a special program in a middle school called "Enriched Honors". During middle school was the only time I was actually able to play that advantage. Via another test, I managed to skip ahead in math to where I was doing IB level geometry in 8th grade, but once I entered high school, all the advantages were gone. I kept the math credits so I am ahead of the majority of my peers in math in HS, but elsewhere, I'm equal to all other students in the APDC (AP/Dual Credit) classes I'm taking. Some of my peers lack the titles, but still perform just as well or better in class than I do. That's led me to believe that the title is meaningless to an extent. Only people with the opportunity to test in managed to snag the title, leaving some who qualify to be left without any sort of title to their name, despite being bright.

See, the trick is to go to a private school or move to a relatively rich neighborhood so that all your teachers past sophomore year have PhDs.

glad to see Jim's exceptionally high IQ has allowed him to become a functional member of society.