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Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/8/2018 20:29:52

Level 58
Since Master Bjarke is too busy right now to continue running the league i've decided to take over.

We have open spots for new players.

The Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League is a seasonal group of round-robin tournaments, always on the “Small Earth” map with standard settings. At the end of each season, the top players of each group are promoted to the next group above. Bottom players are relegated to the next group below. Middle players remain in the same group.

This season is made up of seven groups with 10 players for the most part (A through G). Depending on new players group G will possible be a bit bigger than 10 players, 15 at most. Each tournament is set at 5 games at once with a 3-day boot time.
Group B has 1 additional player compared to other groups while group C has 1 less. This will be nullified by group B having 1 more relegation this season if noone of the players in groups A and B drop out.

No rules are changed from last season.

Links for the tournaments of this season:

Group A: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25017
Group B: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25018
Group C: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25019
Group D: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25020
Group E: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25021
Group F: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25022
Group G: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=25023

New players can join by writing in this thread or sending me a message.

You can get all the tournament links and league history for last season by checking out the thread from Season 13:
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/8/2018 20:30:11

Level 58


The Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League is a seasonal group of round-robin tournaments, always on the “Small Earth” map with standard coin settings. At the end of each season, the top players of each group are promoted to the next group above. Bottom players are relegated to the next group below. Middle players remain in the same group.

The league is meant to appeal to players who want to see, over the course of several seasons, where their natural level of competition might take them. For new, skilled participants, this means patience in getting to the levels where they will be challenged. Hopefully, that is part of the fun. The idea is to see how quickly you can progress, how long you can stay high, or how long it takes to stop a skid.


The league is run with a balance of predictability and flexibility. Final decisions are made by the league administrator with an attempt to consider input of league players.

The model will ideally be to have the top three promote and the bottom three relegate but there are exceptions. Where there is a default – a player becoming inactive or asking to bow out of the league – there can be more promotions and less relegations to fill in the vacancy. Where this happens in several groups there can be a lot of shuffling. The principle, though, is to usually have at least one player from each group relegated. Several retirements means fewer relegations and possible super-promotions to keep the groups filled.

Players are kicked from the league if they have 3 or more boots in a season, or 2 boots in two consecutive seasons, unless they provide a really good reason for the boots. Kicked players can only return as a new player in the bottom group.
Vacations are honoured, however, any player taking more than 3 vacations in a single season will be kicked from the league and can only return in future season as a new player in the bottom group.

Placements in a round-robin are determined by number of wins. In the event of a tie, placements are determined by head-to-head results among the tied. Occasionally, there are loops of ties that cannot be resolved by the head-to-head rule. If this is the case, ties will be broken by the following (in order of preference):

1: No. of Boots. Boots is penalized in resolving ties not solved by the head to head rule. Booted players are moved to the buttom of the tie, and head-to-head is applied again between players with the same amount of boots.
2: Overall win/loss ratio. (The total wins of each player you defeated versus the total wins of each player you lost against). It comes down to the number of wins by the players that a player have won against. Note Head-to-Head reapplied after, if this solves the tier for some but not all.
3: Tie-break tournament. (Unless such a tournament would cause lengthy delays for the league)
4: Average turn-speed (Last resort. only if a tie-break tournament fails to resolve the tie, or would take too long to complete)(where a tie-break tournament has resulted in another tie, average turn speed within the tie-break tournament will be used to split the tie)

Anyone can join the league, members and non-members alike, simply by request in the most recent “Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League” forum thread. New players begin in the bottom group or in an expansion group. Promotions from expansion groups depend on numbers within the new groups.

Before the beginning of each season, a summary of the movements will be announced to allow for questions or corrections. The league works most smoothly if those who wish to bow out let the administrator know before the new season begins instead of simply declining to play after the groups have been determined and tournaments begun.

Edited 3/8/2018 20:31:14
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/8/2018 20:30:15

Level 58
History of the league

Organizors in the past:
huddyj seasons 1-8
Master Bjarke seasons 9-13

no. of top finishes
        	Wins	Runner ups
huddyj   	4	1
Hades   	2	0
AI      	2	0
Buns157  	1	1
Arkanton	1	1
gogo2711	1	0
Hunta           1       0
Master Bjarke	0	3
PanagiotisTheGr	0	2
iNsAnE   	0	1
Bonsai  	0	1
Green Turtle	0	1
Juan            0       1

With the ranking not being updated for the last 2 seasons there is much to talk about here.
Season 12 AI won the group with an impressive 6-1 record followed by Juan with a 4-3 record (2-1, 1-0) in tie breakers before Master Bjarke.
In Season 13 Hunta won the top group with an 8-1 record followed by Master Bjarke with a 7-2 record and tie breaker over Baer. Master Bjarke seems to be a consistent competitor for the top spot.

League titles by clan:
Clan            	Total wins
Creative Cloud  	4
Lynx            	3
M'Hunters       	2
[BR] FUDEW      	1
Icelandic Turtles	1
Hydra               	1

With AI winning 2 seasons straight MH moves up to 3rd in all time standings. After that Hydra has also joined this prestigious list of just 6 clans now. Let's see if in this upcoming season another clan will join this list.

List has been updated now as well to represent up to season 13
Name	Number of seasons in A
Master Bjarke   	11
TWOLKER           	8
huddyj           	7
iNsAnE          	7
Gibs            	6
Buns157                 6
mslasm          	6
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak	4
Bonsai          	4
Leo              	4
gogo2711        	4
Lampiao          	4
Hunta           	4
USA biches        	3
BenSeu           	3
rocky1          	3
Arkanton             	3
Hades            	3
Oh noes                 3
AI                      3
Dacian Novac     	2
Pantelas          	2
slejer           	2
smileyleg        	2
Baer                    2
Slats           	1
Pink            	1
Diplomatic Immunity	1
kirdol          	1
slydog384          	1
Philip B         	1
Sultan Kosmitow 	1
Kevin Turner       	1
Aneksen             	1
PhucilliJerry        	1
Super Smoove        	1
DR. Love           	1
Green Turtle            1
Juan                    1
graemes                 1
Private Pabse           1
BlacKnight              1

Edited 4/20/2018 12:58:16
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/8/2018 20:30:21

Level 58
Really Gut Prayer (F)

Removed from league
MikeTheShortOne (B) - too many boots
Hawk’s Eye      (F) - too many boots
Lord Yerouel    (F) - too many boots

Group A (10/10)
Hunta         (A)
Master Bjarke (A)
Baer          (A)
iNsAnE        (A)
AI            (A)
Oh Noes       (A)
Private Pabse (A)
Bonsai        (B)
TWOLKER       (B)
graemes       (B)

Group B (11/10)
Smileyleg     (A)
Lampião       (A)
BlacKnight    (A)
Andersault    (B)
Kevin Turner  (B)
Ameter        (B)
Hasdrubal     (B)
Pantelas      (C)
Matt431       (C)
Octane        (C)
FC Bayern     (C)

Group C (9/10)
Ragnar Lothbrok           (B)
Kryzelfiz                 (B)
Cata Cauda                (C)
Tof                       (C)
JimmyB’stard              (C)
Lew                       (D)
jacob                     (D)
The Royal Canadian Empire (D)
MilesAhead                (E)

Group D (10/10)
Indibob              (C)
MoneyMakingMitch     (C)
mobtrio              (C)
ARand0mPlayer        (D)
KingNorbs            (D)
Weatherman9000 {TJC} (D)
PhucilliJerry        (D)
Etienne              (E)
bigbear              (E)
Suschel              (F)

Group E (10/10)
tomjh            (D)
kitler           (D)
Midazolam        (D)
Sandgroper       (E)
celticfringe     (E)
[ARM]BelSon      (E)
OilSpotter       (E)
wakanarai        (F)
Star of the East (F)
Huizinga         (F)

Group F (10/10)
Soul Survivor               (E)
Bayern München is the best! (E)
Archdruid                   (E)
Iselin                      (F)
Bane                        (F)
TianO                       (F)
Coronel Gavilan             (F)
Noxinator                   (F)
Dimitris_Wingo              (F)
HockeyTrout                 (F)

Group G (13/??)
Belgium Gentleman (F)
FlashTrigger      (new)
SeruM             (new)
hereIgo           (new)
E Masterpierround (new)
Little-Mouse      (new) 
Fluttershy        (new)
BADA              (returning after boot remove)
QuickSilver       (new)
NecessaryEagle    (new)
Roele             (new)
Meldarion         (new)
Nostromo          (new)

Edited 3/16/2018 16:54:17
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/8/2018 20:30:27

Level 58
waitlist for next season:
~TSK~ deadroses - https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=5295849856
Yoshio - https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2895877132

drop-outs for next season:
jacob (c) - too many boots
bigbear (d) - too many boots
hockeytrout (f) - too many boots
hereIgo (g) - decided to leave league, also too many boots
Belgian Gentleman (g) - decided to leave league

Edited 4/28/2018 06:42:01
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/9/2018 17:08:34

Level 63
waka, thanks for carrying the SE torch
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/11/2018 20:06:10

Level 58
Group A participation has been updated including seasons 12 and 13 now
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/15/2018 18:15:29

Level 58
join rates so far with 8 more days left before the tournaments start.

Group A 8/10 (Bjarke busy, TWOLKER probably online right now, possibly Bjarke will drop out but no guarantees yet)
Group B 9/11 (sorry has to be that way) (smileyleg last seen 14 days ago and Ameter last seen 22 hours ago, so maybe a drop out)
Group C 7/9 (Jammy last seen 95 days ago and Lew last seen 32 days ago, so probably dropping out both)
Group D 8/10 (indibob last seen 95 days ago and phucillijerry last seen 15 hours ago, so probably 1 drop out as well)
Group E 5/10 (2 declined tournament so dropping out for sure, 1 last seen more then 10 days ago, other 2 seen within last 24 hours, so can increase in drop outs)
Group F 5/10 (no declines yet but players on 5, 3 and 2 days ago last seen and 2 within last 24 hours)
Group G 9 players so far

So looking at this lower end will actually have strong change to go 2 to possibly even 3 groups higher next season with the current join rates.
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/20/2018 18:57:42

Level 58
72 hours left untill the tournaments will start.

If you are still interested in playing but aren't in the league yet then let it know in here or send me a private message and i'll include you in the lowest group as soon as possible, as long as there are free spaces left.
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/21/2018 18:49:56

Level 61
Yes, I'am interested to join the league :),
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/22/2018 18:43:54

Master Meldarion 
Level 63
13 people in group G now :D
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/23/2018 01:24:10

Level 58
can i join please
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/23/2018 18:52:27

Level 58
With the new season about to start in a few minutes I've decided to look at some interesting things so far.

First off Group A will have to do it without Master Bjarke and TWOLKER it seems like. Those 2 are seasoned veterans looking att he fact they are in 1st and 2nd place for seasons participated in Group A. With both of them missing InSaNe will go from tied 3rd place to tied 2nd with TWOLKER.

In the last hour i've also been busy figuring out what would be the best way to do promotions and relegations.
There are a total of 16 drop-outs due to not joining and 14 new players participating while we were only 1 in group G to begin with so 9 in F will be it for next season with 10 in every other group. (this is under the current setup with players joined which might change in the coming minutes still)

My concept for promotions/relegations to next season

Group A
1-6  -> A
7-8  -> B

Group B
1-3  -> A
4-8  -> B
9    -> C

Group C
1    -> A
2-3  -> B
4-6  -> C
7    -> D

Group D
1    -> B
2-5  -> C
6-7  -> D
8    -> E

Group E
1-2  -> C
3-5  -> D
6    -> E

Group F
1-2  -> D
3-5  -> E
6    -> F

Group G
1-2  -> D
3-7  -> E
8-15 -> F
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/27/2018 17:47:21

Level 58
And with the league under way for 96 hours now some of the groups have already some interesting developments. Let's go over all of the standings so far.

Group A
InSaNe  1-0
Baer    0-0
Bonsai  0-0
graemes 0-0
Hunta   0-0
Oh Noes 0-0
Pabse   0-0
AI      0-1

Only 1 game finished in this group and it's the season 12 champion AI losing against InSaNe. Nothing really to say about this group further yet

Group B
Hasdrubal    1-0
Octane       2-1
Fc Bayern    1-1
Andersault   0-0
BlacKnight   0-0
Kevin Turner 0-0
Lampião      0-0
Pantelas     1-2
Matt431      0-1

After just 4 days of playing 5 games have finished. Nothing really you can get out of it so far considering everyone is 1 positive, equal or 1 negative right now.

Group C
Cata Cauda      1-0
MilesAhead      1-0
Ragnar Lothbrok 1-0
Royal Canadian  1-0
Tof             1-0
kryzelfiz       0-0
jacob           0-5 (all boots so will be removed from league)

Everybody gets a free win from jacob it seems like. He has been spotted online after his boots but we'll see if he boots in his last game as well.

Group D
ARand0mPlayer    1-0
bigbear          0-0
Etienne          0-0
KingNorbs        0-0
MoneyMakingMitch 0-0
Suschel          0-0
Weatherman9000   0-0
mobtrio          0-1

Just 1 game finished in this group as well.

Group E
wakanarai        2-0
Star of the East 1-1
[ARM]BelSon      0-0
tomjh            0-0
OilSpotter       0-1
Sandgroper       0-1

wakanarai seems to have taken an early lead in this small group with wins over Star of the East and OilSpotter with Star of the East himself being in 2nd for right now due to winning against Sandgroper. Everything can still change in this group since there are still 2 players without any games finished but every game counts in this very small group.

Group F
no games finished yet so won't bother with the standings for right now either. Just remember this is a 6 player group just like the previous one so every game counts even more.

Group G
Quicksilver             5-0
Mar3i                   4-0
FlutterShy              2-0
Lugh of the Long Finger 2-2
petruski                1-1
BADA                    0-0
Belgian Gentleman       0-0
hereIgo                 0-0
Little-Mouse            0-0
Roele                   2-3
NecessaryEagle          0-1
SeruM                   0-1
Thessalos54             3-5
Meldarion               1-4
Nostromo                1-4

For this being the biggest group they got quiet a few games finished compared to the other groups even. In my previous message i said that the concept for promotion would be top 2 to D, guess this might have to become top 3 to D due to the dropout from jacob in C due to boots so even more to fight for in this group right now which seems to be pretty stacked with players i would put in A-C to start of with right now but rules are rules and you have to fight you way up which is easier this season then last season for sure since everyone is guaranteed a promotion in this group.

I'm not surprised by the records for the top players so far. It seems like the lynx/101st players are a force to be reckoned with not only in other competitions but this one as well. They are currently with the 4 of them undefeated against the other players since their only loss so far has come from an internal battle. I don't think this will hold though with BADA still being on no finished games. He will be the dark horse right now to keep an eye out for as well since he has experience within the league previously so knows how to play this template.

Edited 3/27/2018 18:11:08
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/30/2018 18:45:57

Level 58
I'm gonna try to do weekly updates on how the groups are progressing and this week since it was the first one i did an additional update.

Group A
Baer    3-0
graemes 1-1
Oh Noes 1-1
Bonsai  0-0
Pabse   0-0
InSaNe  1-2
AI      0-1
Hunta   0-1

After the early loss for Season 12 champion also the reigning champion has an early loss losing against Baer who has taken the early lead in the group. With this lead he also is almost certain to stay in the top group for next season although it's theoratically still possible for him to relegate.
On the other side of the board are AI and Hunta with both 0-1 so far but as I say often it's still too early to say anything about it.

Group B
Octane       4-1
Hasdrubal    1-0
Lampião      1-0
Andersault   1-1
BlacKnight   1-1
Matt431      1-1
Fc Bayern    1-2
Pantelas     2-4
Kevin Turner 0-2

Octane has taken some sort of a lead in this group although there are still 2 players who are 1-0 so far. Octane his loss is against Pantelas who is far down the order for right now so if Octane wins all his 3 remaining games he is guaranteed 1st place in the group due to tie breakers.
On the other side of the table it's still a battle between several players to avoid the relegation to C next season. Tune in next week to see how this continues.

Group C
kryzelfiz       2-0
Royal Canadian  2-1
Cata Cauda      1-0
Ragnar Lothbrok 1-0
Tof             1-0
MilesAhead      1-1
jacob           0-6 (all boots so will be removed from league)

And jacob has been booted in his last game as well. On the other side there are 2 actual games finished in this group with kryzelfiz beating Royal Canadian who himself managed to defeat MilesAhead. I still have to figure out if I want to demote last in place in this group or just have 1 more lower group player promote to D instead.

Group D
Suschel          3-0
ARand0mPlayer    2-1
KingNorbs        1-0
Etienne          0-0
Weatherman9000   0-0
MoneyMakingMitch 2-3
bigbear          0-1
mobtrio          0-3

With a few more games finished it seems like Suschel is continueing to do pretty good in the group he is in as winner of the "newby" group F last season. He seems to be in the driver seat right now for another promotion but there are still 3 others undefeated though 2 of those haven't finished a game so far. Besides that ARand0mPlayer also still is in the running for top spot if there somehow will be a 3-way tie between him, Suschel and 1 of the other 3 without losses so far so everything is still open at the top.
At the bottom on the other side bigbear and especially mobtrio need to fear for their place in this group since they still don't have any wins at all.

Group E
wakanarai        3-0
Star of the East 2-1
tomjh            1-1
[ARM]BelSon      0-0
OilSpotter       0-2
Sandgroper       0-2

wakanarai has strengthened his position once again by getting another win and Star of the East also seems to be still a force to be reckoned with. It could have been expected of those 2 considering they were 2nd and 4th last season in the newby group just like Suschel in D who is doing that well as well.
BelSon can still go anywhere since he hasn't completed any games yet but OilSpotter and Sandgroper seem to be competing against each other to not go without a win in this group.

Group F
Soul Survivor   1-0
TianO           1-0
Coronel Gavilan 1-1
Bayern München  0-0
Dimitris-Wingo  0-0
Hockeytrout     0-2

With a few games in this group finished now it doesn't look that good for Hockeytrout having no win yet after 2 games finished but he still has 3 games left to make this up and he still has to play both of the 0-0 players of course so still anything can happen.

Group G
Mar3i                   7-0
Quicksilver             5-0
SeruM                   5-1
Lugh of the Long Finger 4-3
petruski                4-3
Little-Mouse            1-0
NecessaryEagle          3-3
FlutterShy              2-2
Meldarion               4-5
BADA                    0-1
Belgian Gentleman       0-2
hereIgo                 0-2
Roele                   3-6
Thessalos54             3-8
Nostromo                1-6

Mar3i has taken over the lead in this group for right now with a 7-0 record followed by Quicksilver with a 5-0 record so far. Those aren't the only undefeated so far. The last undefeated being Little-Mouse with just 1 game finished so is standing lower then some players with score right now but just having more wins. With the group being so big there still is more then enough games to play for but i won't be surprised if the winner of the group will have 2 losses just like last seasons lowest group just because there is quiet a bit of competition once again in the lower group.

The top 2 will have a 3 group promotion in the current concept just due to that reason and it wasn't something i could do last season with only 1 player dropping out in a mid tier group.
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 3/30/2018 22:49:49

Level 64
Great job! Please continue running the league like that!
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 4/2/2018 09:42:04

Level 58
concept update after 3 players getting removed for too many boots (see 5th post for names and groups)

Group A
1-6  -> A
7-8  -> B

Group B
1-3  -> A
4-8  -> B
9    -> C

Group C
1    -> A
2-3  -> B
4-6  -> C (removed 7th)

Group D
1    -> B
2-5  -> C
6-7  -> D (removed 8th)

Group E
1-2  -> C
3-6  -> D (was 3-5, 6th stayed E)

Group F
1-2  -> D
3-5  -> E (removed 6th)

Group G
1-2   -> D
3-9   -> E (was 3-7)
10-15 -> F

The earlier you sign up for next season the better your changes are at starting in a higher group or i'll might make 2 groups F depending on interest

Edited 4/2/2018 09:42:38
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 4/3/2018 11:30:00

Master Meldarion 
Level 63
Shouldn't the person coming in last in F and E stay in the same Group? I mean, getting promoted for losing all games wouldn't make much sense :p Furthermore, really great job on running the league; thanks for taking it over (: And thanks for updating this, it's nice (:
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 4/3/2018 11:53:50

Level 58
The official rules say top 3 promote and bottom 3 relegate but there are so many dropouts it's just as good as impossible to make it fair.
I've had the thought of letting 3rd of F and G duel for promotion to D but then was like this would be even more administration for me right now.
There are 6 players in F though but last has been booted in most of his games so will be removed but without that i had him staying in F still then probably.

This is also the reason why i specifically put in the first sentence that it's a concept as well so things might change like that one you just pointed out.
Small Earth Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 4/3/2018 16:16:33

Master Meldarion 
Level 63
Yeah I know haha, it's because it's a concept that I decided to at least ask :p

It's pretty hard to make a better concept; but I'd change promotions from G to 1-3 -> D 4-10 -> E 11-15 -> F ; that sends one more to D and one less to F, and then you can keep the lowest one from F in F (1-2 D, 3-4 E & 5 F), which sends one less to E. You then send one less from E to D; 1-2 -> C 3-5 -> D 6 -> E. Which sends one more to E, and one less to D.

That'd make the same number in every part. Normally lowest would mean degradation obviously; but this way you at least keep it from promoting. If you have enough new sign-ups you can also let the lowest of G stay in G (You thus far only are at 5 in F, so probably won't need it; but if G continues to exist (15+ sign-ups) you can do the first 6 sign-ups to F and the other 9 to G together with the last place of G this time.

Of course this is just a suggestion, but it keeps more in check with the idea of the bottom ones relegating.
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