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Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 18:44:09

ihmekeke
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For the past few days I've been making my first map. I've been spending about 10 hours a day on this one and I think it's just about ready for testing. Who's willing to test this one out?

I tried to make this map as even as I could. There's 94 territories in the map. 47 in North Korea and 47 in South Korea. 8 bonuses on both countries + 1 bonus for either country. There's also an equal number of armies you get from the bonuses from each country.

Preview of the map.
http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=9720

Feel free to leave any comments or advice.
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 18:54:52


Richard Sharpe 
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VERY nicely done. There are many experienced mapmakers (who shall remain nameless since they complain about hurt feelings) who haven't even come close to this level of quality. The borders are perfectly done and all the territories should support double-digit armies with no difficulties.

I commend you on a superb first effort.
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 19:02:20


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id prefer it if the bonus square for north chungcheong was in the middle rather than on the edge. otherwise your map is perfect (i assume the connections are all correct). i hope you continue making more, youre a natural.
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 19:12:52


Moros 
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Wow, great map! A lot of map-builders I know could learn from this map!
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 19:13:26


Moros 
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And I'm in for testing, it looks like big fun to play!
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 19:14:11

ihmekeke
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Thanks for the nice comments. I'm type of person that when I start something I almost never finish it. That's why I applaud myself for finishing this one. Well technically it's not yet finished but whatever. Your comments encourage me to make new maps in the future. Whether I finish them or not depends on myself.

I changed the bonus square for North Chungcheong to the middle.
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 19:38:59

ihmekeke
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I don't know how people draw each territory but what I did was I first drew straight lines. Then I drew another territory with straight lines. Lined the borders perfectly using cusp node to cusp node. Made sure there's equal number of nodes on both. and then smoothed all of them except the nodes on the corners.

I don't know if I'm making any sense here.

I think I would be ready to start testing the map sometime tomorrow.
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 20:11:49


Ironheart
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nicely done i like the name too nobody can argue with that name
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 20:12:33


Ironheart
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looks balanced too am planning too make my own map too
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 20:13:55


Ironheart
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u can count me in for testing
Korean Peninsula: 2/9/2012 21:28:16

Yeon 
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Great job! I don't normally playtest, but I'd playtest this!
Korean Peninsula: 2/10/2012 12:14:48

ihmekeke
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Anyone online at the moment or in the next couple of hours who'd like to test this one?
Korean Peninsula: 2/10/2012 16:01:01


Moros 
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I am now, but because of those different time zones I have no idea how many hours ago you posted that question.
Korean Peninsula: 2/10/2012 16:20:50

wigibob
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i can test
Korean Peninsula: 2/10/2012 16:34:13

ihmekeke
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Well, you're a little too late but I'll inform here when I'm able to test again.

I made a couple changes to the map. I added the island of Ulleung to the right which you can use to attack Dancon in the North or Pohang in the south. The Island belongs to South Korea in reality but I made it "neutral" so it won't affect any bonuses and you don't get a bonus for it either. Also on the left side of the map I made a change so you can attack from Seosang to Kangryong and vice versa.

I made these changes so the games wouldn't be so straightforward and there would be different tactics to use.

You can compare the maps.

Earlier version
http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=9720

New version
http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=9929

What do you think? Should the attacking points from ulleung be somewhere else?
Korean Peninsula: 2/10/2012 16:48:34


Richard Sharpe 
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Excellent addition with the island. I like that it is neutral (could even make it a negative bonus) as it adds so much to the strategy required. The connected attack points seem reasonable to me... at their flank but not completely in their rear either. Puts bonuses of comparable strength in danger so maintains the balance.

I gotta ask though... is this a second account for you? Just seems odd to create an account, not play any multi-player games and create a map.
Korean Peninsula: 2/10/2012 17:05:22


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are there any real-life connections between that island and the main part of the island? otherwise i think its good as it is.

there are some points at which 4 territories connect, for example in the southeast, pohang, daegu, miryang and ulsan. if you click on ulsan and then daegu, you can see that the borders overlap, but the territories do not connect. if you could redraw the territories around points like these so that its obvious which territories do not connect, i think the map would be more playable.
Korean Peninsula: 2/12/2012 12:32:13

ihmekeke
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To Richard Sharpe

This is my first account. I found this game about a month ago and I've only played the single player mode and custom games against AI's before creating an account. Because no-one had made a map of the Korean Peninsula and it was possible for users to create their own maps I wanted to give it a shot.

I actually find it odd that no-one had made this map for the fact that there's actually a real threat of these two countries going to war. There has been a threat ever since the ending of Korean war. I'm not korean myself but I find the whole situation and both countries very interesting. So much actually that I took a trip last October to South Korea. Visited Seoul, Busan and ofcourse the De-Militarized Zone.


To [VM] x

According to google maps there's a ship route to donghae from Pohang and from Donghae. Pohang is the connection point I chose. There's no connection to the north because the north is a communist country and they have closed their borders completely so I just made a random connection to the north.

For the issue you mentioned about territories not connecting. I redraw all those areas that I found problems in and made new connections.

You can view the changes here
http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=10093
Korean Peninsula: 2/12/2012 12:45:48

ihmekeke
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I can't edit my message. I meant that there's a connection to the island of Ulleung from Donghae and from Pohang.

Anyway, I have a few hours to test the map right now if someone wants to play.
Korean Peninsula: 2/12/2012 12:47:39


Muppet
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I will.
Korean Peninsula: 2/12/2012 12:52:58

ihmekeke
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Invitation sent.
Korean Peninsula: 2/12/2012 15:28:48

ihmekeke
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Thanks to Muppet for testing the map.

He noticed that it takes more time to capture bonuses in the north than it takes in the south. He is right about that. I think there's some fixing to do in North Hamgyong, Ryanggang and especially in South Hamgyong. I'm back to the drawing board so to speak.

I'll update here when there's more to tell.
Korean Peninsula: 2/12/2012 21:01:04

[UN] Choombi
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Me too
Korean Peninsula: 2/14/2012 03:44:12

ihmekeke
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Good news everyone.

The map is now finished and will go public. It now says pending public in the design maps page. I don't know how long it usually takes for everyone to see it but it's gonna be available soon.

I had a fun time making it and I hope you enjoy playing it too.
Korean Peninsula: 2/14/2012 03:46:09

ihmekeke
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Oh, I forgot to add a link to the preview link to the release version.

http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=10196
Korean Peninsula: 3/26/2012 20:33:06

ihmekeke
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Selfish bump.

Wow. What a pleasant surprise. Came here and saw that the map has a rating of 4.76/5 and at the moment is rated highest out of all maps on WarLight. I'd like to thank the people who have played the map and liked it. Now that we have the rating system I'm glad to see that my work hasn't been for nothing.



So that this post wouldn't be just me thanking you guys and boasting how high the rating is (:D) I'd like to give you a little sneak peek of something I've been making for a while now.

I know there is a few maps of Japan already on WarLight, but two of them are historical maps and one is a small one with only about 50 territories. The map I'm making is Japan Big and when/if it's finished it would have over 500 territories. At the moment it has 113 territories and it's about 20% ready.

http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=11042
Korean Peninsula: 3/26/2012 21:11:53


Ironheart
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missing link kirishima and kagoshima
Korean Peninsula: 3/26/2012 21:31:25


Moros 
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That looks good! But where's Okinawa?
Korean Peninsula: 3/26/2012 22:09:01

ihmekeke
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Don't worry Moros. It will be included. Because Okinawa is so far from the main islands I will have to include it in it's own little box somewhere at the bottom of the map. I've already hit the pixel limit vertically so I can't include it in the map any other way. I don't want to make the main islands any smaller because there already were some problems trying to fit double digits inside territories in the Nagasaki Prefecture.

Balancing the map is the hardest thing to figure out with this map. I want to make the map so that each prefecture is a bonus. As you can see from the link below there's a lot of small size prefectures in the south but as you go north the prefectures get bigger and bigger in size.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Regions_and_Prefectures_of_Japan_2.svg/500px-Regions_and_Prefectures_of_Japan_2.svg.png

I try to fit in as many territories in the map as I can but when some prefectures could fit well over 20 territories in the north, I can only fit under 10 in the south. Hokkaido isn't a problem because it has subprefectures so I can easily slice it to smaller pieces. I don't want to make a map where the starting positions would already decide the game.
Korean Peninsula: 3/27/2012 00:17:25


[WM] Anonymous 
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Nice map, i think you should introduce "north vs south" distribution :)
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