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Big clan war idea: 2/13/2014 15:01:02

ARand0mPlayer
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I got a quite big idea for clan wars. It is based on the basic risk board game. The idea is that two or more clans chose a leader (we will call them the clanleader). These leaders will play (via the gameleader, which I will be in the first game) the standard game. I will first distribute the terittory’s completely random, probably with help from warlight. After this, both leaders can place 20 armies around the board. There is one major rule which isn’t in the basic board game: You can’t have more than 20 armies in any territory. After this, the first clan will take it’s turn. The clanleader places the armies gained by his income. Then he will attack, which will be very different from the standard game. For example, he attacks with 5 armies a territory of the other clan where there are 2 armies. Then we will get a team game where the first clan will have a team of 5 players, fighting against a team from 2 players of the second clan. Every player represents an army in the main game. So if the first clan wins, but one player of that clan has been eliminated, 4 players will be left, so the 4 armies will be transferred to the conquered territory. Because there can’t be more than 40 players in a warlight game, the maximum number of armies is 20. The clan which conquers the world will win.

The attacking clan can choose the settings. But there are some resistrictions: no multi-attack, no custom scenario distribution, no edited bonus values and the map must have at most 400 territory’s.

If you want to participate with your clan, you will have to make a list of 20 players. The clanleader will be on number one. Once we will have the example attack from above, the number 1 till 5 from the list of first clan will be in its team, and the number one and two from the list of the second clan will be in the other team.

This is our list:
1.[NL] DobbieDice
2. [NL] Lord Jayko
3. [NL] Proturio
4. [NL] Risk-R
5. [NL] Willem van Oranje
6. [NL] Lodewijk Entrop
7. [NL] Lord Appiecommander
8. [NL] Emillio
9. [NL] Flying Dutchman
10. [NL] Pancake
11. [NL] Lord Jotham
12. [NL] Goudvis
13. [NL]kempo95
14. [NL] jonathan pietjes
15. AA[NL] sir jo
16. [NL] Daan
17. [NL] Per Knops
18. [NL] Bart
19. [NL] .:.PrinceJustin.:.
20. [NL] Bassie_c

If you want to participate with your clan, you have post your list here. You can of course also post if you have any ideas for improvements.
Big clan war idea: 2/13/2014 17:35:41


Banana 
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Can a clan participate if they don't have 20 members?

as i understand it, if you attack with 10 vs 2, then it will be a warlight game with 10 vs 2, am i right?
-if so, it could maybe be 1v1 matches instead? like if 10 attack 2, then they 2 defending will have to win to all the attackers in 1v1 matches to hold that land. just an idea. :)

Edited 2/13/2014 18:53:39
Big clan war idea: 2/13/2014 20:25:32


Min34 
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5v2 matches or 10v2 matches don`t really seem fair :p But as banana said, and maybe as you meant it, it would be good is 5 players on one side and 2 players on the other played and then who beated the others the fasted (like the 101st vs. warlighters challenge now)
Big clan war idea: 2/14/2014 05:30:33


Michael the Jester
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Edited 2/24/2014 19:13:47
Big clan war idea: 2/14/2014 13:21:02

ARand0mPlayer
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You really have to have at least 20 members. Note: All the games will be practice, so you don't get points in an unfair way.
Big clan war idea: 2/15/2014 12:39:30


[NL] DobbieDice
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Yup, but most clans have more then 20 members, if they dont then maybe work together with another clan so you have enough players
Big clan war idea: 2/15/2014 16:59:32


Min34 
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Note: All the games will be practice, so you don't get points in an unfair way.


With uneven teams, there are no points given and the game won`t count on your profile.
Big clan war idea: 2/24/2014 16:40:29

ARand0mPlayer
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Vitrix Mortalis,we will battle against you.
Big clan war idea: 2/24/2014 19:13:16


Michael the Jester
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Oh man was i stupid .... damn well Rome has Powerful allies..... so prepare for your down fall
Big clan war idea: 2/24/2014 19:49:18


[NL] Lord Jotham
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Even Rome has fallen, Empires rise and Empires fall.
Big clan war idea: 2/24/2014 20:32:25


Michael the Jester
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Grrr
Big clan war idea: 2/25/2014 13:06:58


elbee 
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The difference is that in risk the defending team has a better chance of winning a dice roll than the attacking team so there is a good chance of eliminating an attacker. In a 5 v 2 (or whatever) in WL there is no such weighting and so the chance of a defending team eliminating an attacker is very remote. Won't make for a very interesting game if you are just going to be slaughtered. Is there anyway in the settings to at least give the defending team some kind of advantage (more cards maybe)?
Big clan war idea: 2/25/2014 15:35:36


Banana 
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@elbee, some AIs ;)
Big clan war idea: 2/25/2014 23:45:24


kevin#1 
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Sounds interesting, I like how you would get 20 base income per turn and it's where and how you use it that the game is all about, quite different from standard games. I have a few questions/comments though:
1- Would multi-attack be on and used like with the board game or would that be too complicated and standard Warlight attacks be used?
2- With the players in the team games, would they be selected by the clanleader or would they be randomly selected?
3- Elbee is right, in the team games it would be too difficult for the defending team to stand a chance or even come close to eliminate attackers (especially if the attacking team chooses custom settings and big maps), that is completely different from the board game. Maybe there should be one or a few team game settings that are more fair and give the defending team a better chance (maybe small, heavy, or medium earth with one start?).
4- Most importantly, how would the kill rates of the team games match the kill rates of the real game? If players control how many armies will die then how will that be used in a Warlight game with Warlight kill rates? Would the game be played off Warlight somehow?

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding anything.
Big clan war idea: 2/26/2014 01:25:59


[NL] kempo95
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@kevin#1
1- multi-attack is not allowed in a single attack game and i think it isnt allowed in the main game as well. That will be very complicated.
2- The players will be selected in same order as the list wich can you see in the first post. For example, I will be involved in an attack if there are 13 or more armies on our side. As a clan you have to make a list like that too. And of course, choose smart.
3- Agreed, I dont know if and so, what we are doing about that. I think that we have to see how it works and we can do that only by playing. :P
4- The main game will not be a warlight game indeed. [NL] ARand0mPlayer will make something which he will edit every attack.
I hope that anwers your questions
Big clan war idea: 2/26/2014 16:28:18

ARand0mPlayer
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@kevin#1
Your base income isn't 20, it depends on your number of armies. The 20 is the maximum amount of armies allowed to be on one territory, because the maximum number of players in a warlight game is 40. So you can only have 20 armies per team.
And from reading your post, I wonder if you have ever played the real risk board game. Because there, you have the first player who deploys armies, attacks, and then can replace their armies. Then it is the other players turn. This goes on until you have reached your mission, but it will be to complex to use missions, so here, the goal will be to conquer the world.

I will first not do anything about the defenders bonus and I will see how the game goes. If we think that it is unbalanced, I will think about some way to rebalance it.

Edited 2/26/2014 16:29:21
Big clan war idea: 2/26/2014 21:05:19


kevin#1 
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Thanks, both of you, that clears things up. I have played the original and know how it works, just realized I misread the part about the initial deployment. Sounds like it will be fun to keep up with, I'd play but I don't think we have 20 players.
Big clan war idea: 3/25/2014 17:13:53

ARand0mPlayer
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Emperor Michael isn't in Vitrix mortalis anymore. So are there any other clans who want to participate, as we don't have an enemy anymore.
Big clan war idea: 3/25/2014 21:33:56


Wohoo
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This sounds great! I love Dutch people!
I hope there will be 20 T4R members willing to play. If not i hope we can work together with anather clan.

Edited 3/25/2014 21:34:59
Big clan war idea: 3/27/2014 13:50:08

ARand0mPlayer
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If a clan has a bit less players, the max. army limit will just be a bit lower.
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