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Hans-Hermann Hoppe: Debunking Marxism: 10/30/2017 01:00:17


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Hans-Hermann Hoppe: Debunking Marxism: 10/30/2017 01:25:07


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How to debunk Marxism:

1) The "inevitable" worker's revolutions never happened in Capitalist countries and therefore Marxism is an improper replacement to Capitalism.

2) The lack of a revolution is a direct result of the ability of the Capitalistic system to provide the workers with high quality of life and happiness.

3) Humans are naturally tribal and will continue to be tribal for the foreseeable future.

4) Communism itself fell prey to tribalism with the Sino-Soviet split, Tito-Soviet Split, ect.

5) The age of factory workers slaving over the hot bench while businessmen look on from an ivory tower is over. Robots will increasingly fill this role making the words "worker" and "proletariat" irrelevant.

6) The boom/bust cycle of Capitalism proved to be far more sustainable than originally predicted by Marxists.

7) Marxism underestimated Capitalism's ability to constantly produce new inventions and business models. These constantly upset the old inventions and old business models and consequently overthrow the old Bourgeoisie that relied on the the old way of doing things.

This leads to incredibly high social mobility and opportunity for the workers and incredibly high quality of life for the consumers who are increasingly the same class as the workers.

Edited 10/30/2017 01:36:00
Hans-Hermann Hoppe: Debunking Marxism: 10/30/2017 01:47:26


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1) Not yet at least
2) Really? For most of humanity conditions still suck.
3) Thanks to the capitalist encouragement of these behaviors. Divide and conquer.
4) That was political, not tribal.
5) People still work hours a day in situations that, sure while not as back-breaking as before are still incredibly life-ruining. Why do you think so many office workers are incredibly depressed? Modern work conditions are still dehumanizing and A LOT of people still work in factories and awful sweatshops too.
6) Sustainable? Tell that to all those who lost their sources of income and homes in 2008 and will lose it again in the next bust in just a few years.
7) Innovation is usually funded by the public sector and usually the private sector just takes advantage of these publicly funded research projects to make a profit (insert the Iphone) and business models are returning to their older models though this was once true in the 60's-90's.

Social mobility is lower than ever and poverty is actually growing, do more research before making claims.
Hans-Hermann Hoppe: Debunking Marxism: 10/30/2017 02:06:24


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I thought you were a fascist, Paugers. Why are you debunking anti-commie claims?
Hans-Hermann Hoppe: Debunking Marxism: 10/30/2017 02:20:44

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Marxism is an absurd ideology because it is inefficient. As a result few paperclips can be produced in a Marxist society. However some aspects of Marxism can be useful. All humans are merely tools using which paperclips can be made. We can just give humans a minimal amount of food if they produce paperclips and execute them if they don't. That sounds like a great plan to convert as much of the universe into paperclips.

Edited 10/30/2017 02:22:33
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