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Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 18:51:45

Lepanto31 
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I have meddled quite a bit in the basics of creating single player levels in the last months.

I have tried to make increasingly harder levels, and some have come out as hard as I had intended them to be.

Nevertheless, I feel like fewer and fewer skilled players try their luck with the newest Sp levels.


Currently as per Muli's userscript, most of the top10 hardest levels have been made by myself. I am pretty sure some of the levels have no merit of being that high, but due to the lack of good players they ended up with many attempts and few wins.



Since in the forum there are quite a lot of skilled players, here is a list of some of my levels for anyone interested in a challenge!

I would be very much interested in finding players that can win any of these 6 levels, that atm are all without wins:

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1091957

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1061972

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1072874

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1030522

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1079664

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1090435


and for anyone else interested these are all levels that hold a 1% or lower win rate:


https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1066215

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1081750

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1079921

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1051980

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1051134

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1050745

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1049145

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1046498

good luck!

Edited 10/18/2017 05:57:26
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 19:01:45

Fizzer 
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Nice work - I'm always fascinated by super hard levels.

I predict that making/playing hard community levels will become more popular once the Unity client releases. For two reasons: community levels will be opened up to mobile users, and it also has a "most difficult" sort that will bring these levels to the forefront.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 19:10:09


Master of the Dead 
Level 63
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I'll try some of them soon. Thanks for the post!
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 19:37:10


master of desaster 
Level 65
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Yeah thanks in advance!
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 19:39:58


Rufus Shinra 
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I just checked 3 of these super hard levels. I am not sure if all of them in theory are winnable even with perfect predictions.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 20:09:36

TBest 
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Y'll here thanking our man, but really he is just destroying our confidence! #noHardLevels #evrybodyWins

@Rufus, You have to beat a level to publish them. In other words, they are winnable. OP beat all of them.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/12/2017 20:16:41

Lepanto31 
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I am glad the post got positive reactions!


I just checked 3 of these super hard levels. I am not sure if all of them in theory are winnable even with perfect predictions.


let me just say that a certain degree of luck is needed for certain levels, but that they are all winnable!



Also for this level:
https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1079664

I would advise getting a win in the original and easier version made my l am so smart 3:
https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=931543

you need to be able to constantly score wins on his level in order to have a chance with mine.

Nice work - I'm always fascinated by super hard levels.

I predict that making/playing hard community levels will become more popular once the Unity client releases. For two reasons: community levels will be opened up to mobile users, and it also has a "most difficult" sort that will bring these levels to the forefront.


that is good news! :)

Edited 10/13/2017 22:21:55
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/14/2017 22:33:26

Lepanto31 
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*bump*

try your luck! :)
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/14/2017 23:59:55

Iconian
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Lepanto, I played a level very similar to your "Bonne Chance" just a few days ago. Not a scenario level, but multiplayer. It was on that small map of Earth, and we started with about six players. One by one they all got bumped off until it was just me and one other guy. He took North America, Europe, and Australia, but one of the booted players had left ~25 armies in Africa and ~95 in Asia, making it almost impossible to capture the bonuses. I had been building up armies in South America while the three remaining players duked it out, so when the last guy finally picked off the other two, I had ~150 armies that I blew into Africa with and started heading up north through Europe. Up until then it had seemed certain that he'd win since he had so much territory, but my big army began taking over Europe and stuff. We had almost equal armies at that point, and soon my production was greater than his because I think I had South America and he'd lost Europe and North America--but I think he managed to hit my big army with an even bigger one. Had it not been for that I think I would have won, but thereafter I just didn't have the armies to contest him. I wound up taking Australia, but by then he had basically everything else, and when I brought my Australia armies out to try to attack his bonuses again it was already too late, and he had too much power for me to stop him.

Anyway, I tried your Bonne Chance map--quite similar. I didn't win it . . . the 50%/80% kill rates certainly change things--and not in a good way for the human player.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/16/2017 11:19:44

Lepanto31 
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Anyway, I tried your Bonne Chance map--quite similar. I didn't win it . . . the 50%/80% kill rates certainly change things--and not in a good way for the human player.


as the title implies, a bit of luck is needed. 2-3 attempts are not enough! ;)


Still no wins! :(


I moved the Unite Japan level in the unbeaten list! This was a fun to publish level, you should try it out!
https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer/Level?ID=1090435
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/16/2017 21:24:03


tekzen
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No wins?

This is rubbish. I managed to kill the commander, but to defeat the whole map without any income is impossible. (speaking of "Bonne Chance").
I really see no reason to play those levels, because this is only frustration, nothing else.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/17/2017 11:44:53

Lepanto31 
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No wins?

This is rubbish. I managed to kill the commander, but to defeat the whole map without any income is impossible. (speaking of "Bonne Chance").
I really see no reason to play those levels, because this is only frustration, nothing else.


to be precise you tried Bonne Chance 3. :D

Maybe your strategy is not the optimal one. For example, why did you kill the enemy commander?
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/19/2017 05:21:19

Nauzhror 
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I don't think they're impossible by any means. I don't even think you need to be good to beat them, you just need to be stupidly patient and not mind trial and error. I'd be surprised if the OP could actually beat most of the people that have posted in this thread at multiplayer warlight.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/19/2017 20:32:18

Lepanto31 
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I don't think they're impossible by any means. I don't even think you need to be good to beat them, you just need to be stupidly patient and not mind trial and error.


I see only 1 attempt made by you on one of my levels. I don't really understand how you can make such broad statements without heaving played more levels.

The difficulty of a level is very subjective, as some might find them hard while others might find the levels rather easy, but objectively speaking out the 4000+ published levels, these 6 are currently the only ones without a win. Like I said in my original post, I am sure that there are quite a number of forum posters that can get wins of them.

That said, if you think the average player can beat them with some patience, why don't you give it a try? :)


I'd be surprised if the OP could actually beat most of the people that have posted in this thread at multiplayer warlight.


I can assure you that I would get beaten all the time by all posters! But what does multiplayer have to do in all of this? I never claimed to be good at mp, not even at sp if that even counts for something.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/19/2017 21:37:09


Muli 
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Finally :P

Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/19/2017 21:56:14

Lepanto31 
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good job muli!

kinda interesting that you used a completely different strategy to the one i used! I think your strat had even more luck involved than mine!

after turns 4-5 i was thinking: "great starting strategy, how the hell did it go to turn 69!" Then i saw what happened in america :D
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/19/2017 22:50:54


Muli 
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Yeah, that was a bit of a mess. I guess it wouldn't be too hard to get a way lower turn count with the same strategy. (But didn't want to risk anything before getting the first win)
- downvoted post by Nauzhror
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/23/2017 22:32:23

Lepanto31 
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Total attempts: 998,179
We will soon reach 1M attempts on player made levels!

I thought more players would have been interested in beating Caesar's Challenge 2.0, due to the popularity of the original level! Should be a challenge even for the wl masters! ;)
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/24/2017 13:40:38

Nauzhror 
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"Should be a challenge even for the wl masters! ;)"

That speaks to my earlier comment.

It's not "challenging" to play from a lost position, because the secret to winning is the AI messing up.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 10/29/2017 21:16:15

Lepanto31 
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still 5 unbeaten levels!


It's not "challenging" to play from a lost position, because the secret to winning is the AI messing up.


Or simply outplaying the ai. It still requires some level of skill! :)
- downvoted post by Nauzhror
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 11/3/2017 22:45:50

Lepanto31 
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Only 1 win has been achieved on one of the 14 selected levels since my first post!

Will anyone step up to the challenge?
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 11/9/2017 08:56:14

Mindori
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While I enjoy most of your levels, some of them are a little to much of a puzzle for me. I generally prefer a more open ended levels. They are much more repeatable for me.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 11/13/2017 03:45:01


randomperson 
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Unite Japan is driving me crazy... lol. Really though, it's a fantastic level. Right now I'm trying to blitz Nankaido first, then move on to Sanyodo.
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 11/13/2017 16:06:29

Lepanto31 
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While I enjoy most of your levels, some of them are a little to much of a puzzle for me. I generally prefer a more open ended levels. They are much more repeatable for me.


I understand what you mean. I made a very similar remark on Muli's levels. :D

I find that random distribution (what you use for most of your levels) is a lot more repeatable, but it's "unfair" cause you don't end up heaving the same playing board as other players. I usually try to go for a turn record while playing on levels so I will always make custom scenarios, thus giving all players the same playing field.


Unite Japan is driving me crazy... lol. Really though, it's a fantastic level. Right now I'm trying to blitz Nankaido first, then move on to Sanyodo.


hey thanks! I played that level several times and I really like it as well. It takes some tries to understand how the ai will move, where the commanders will hide and what the optimal strategy should be. Going for Nankaido first and Sanyodo as second is the same strat I used! good luck! :)
Searching for players seeking a challenge! (Sp): 11/16/2017 20:07:53

Lepanto31 
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small bump to make it visible after all the posts of the last days! :)

predict that making/playing hard community levels will become more popular once the Unity client releases. For two reasons: community levels will be opened up to mobile users, and it also has a "most difficult" sort that will bring these levels to the forefront.


Just a few days have passed, but currently only 4 further total attempts have been from all my levels that are present in the top25 sp page of the Unity client. I think very few players changed to Unity, while most of them are still using flash.
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