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History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 02:54:41


Padraig
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I am sure that some of you will enjoy this quick video outlining the history of the Belgium Congo, Zaire, & Democratic Republic of the Congo. Included is the story of Joseph Mobutu a man who practiced brutal repression and unbridled greed with a style all his own.

It provides an answer to those who would argue that the history of the Congo can be reduced to the simplistic assertion that sub-Saharan African countries are inferior because they are populated by inferior people.

John Green, the speaker, is known for his novel The Fault in Our Stars.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uArRzwKHvE

Please share your thoughts.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 03:24:13

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I know that Mobotu stole a lot of money. So did/do the Kabilas.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 05:45:38

strongkillaz
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^ So you admit they went through some bullshit western countries did not go through in order to become what they are today.

kk finally
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 05:52:21

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^There are still differences though. Some parts of Eastern DRC mostly had no written history before Belgians moved in.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 06:00:34


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Give proof for your claim or else I won't believe it.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 06:03:11

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Sure. Look for "Kisagani" on Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-colonial_history_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo

Edited 8/27/2017 06:09:40
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 14:16:42


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Tribes were there then Belgium came and chopped a few hands then some stuff happened. There, history of congo.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 14:50:44


The Cruelest
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When he said "Angola stepped into help Congo." I keked. Angola is one of the most shitty countries in the whole world. Its like Russia allying with Liechtenstein.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 15:00:03

TabbyCat
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^Yes but by Sub-Saharan African standards Angola at least had some military that can not defeat the white South Africa when it existed but was and is still much more competent than the Congolese "military" which is just a joke.

Edited 8/27/2017 15:12:35
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 15:06:02

TabbyCat
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^^^I certainly don't support hand-chopping even if it is hand-chopping of peafowls.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 18:01:22


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There is nothing historically noteworthy about tin-horn dictatorships or savages. History belongs to high cultures, and currently the West is the only remaining high culture, though it is a disgusting materialistic shell of its former self and needs to die.
History of the Congo: 8/27/2017 18:21:44

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I agree that history belongs to high cultures and that the West is the only one remaining. I disagree that materialism is bad. Instead I believe it is the most advanced form of culture.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 03:43:47


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^^The West does not need to die.

As to calling the Congolese savages, that seems somewhat problematic. At least 80% of the population is Christian, and of the Christians 62.5% are Catholic, according to the CIA Factbook.

Or is that you consider Christians to be savages?
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 03:52:28

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Christianity is a religion of those who do.not have pride, masochists and slaves. It is pathological.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 04:36:45


Padraig
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Christianity is a religion of those who do not have pride, masochists and slaves. It is pathological.


What sort of Christian were you before you adopted your present beliefs?
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 12:20:17


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catholics are not christians they are catholics and they worship the pope and yes many are savage
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 12:58:03


Wulfhere
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The Congolese are savages regardless of their religion. Religion is not very important. Every culture will develop it's own version of religion. African Christianity is different than European Christianity.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 13:50:08

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^^The first and third ones. Christianity is a psychological pathology.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 19:37:51


Padraig
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The first and third ones.


Sorry, I don't follow.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 19:45:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg5zbsqq1K1qgfbgio1_r1_1280.jpg

The Kingdom of Kongo had an interesting military, pretty comparable to late medieval England with large levies of peasant archers and then a noble army.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 20:41:32


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^ Well they wuz kangs n shiet so it's natural.
History of the Congo: 8/28/2017 23:51:32


The Cruelest
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It looks like they held lived from 1390s-1860s. If they were still using late middle ages technology in 1860 (think Franco-Prussian War or American Civil War) then they were still pretty backwards. No Muskets, No cannons, No ironclads, no trains, ect. America was a backwater at the time and even they could muster a decent number of these.

Edited 8/28/2017 23:51:52
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 00:04:08


Major General Smedley Butler
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They already had muskets by 1665

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mbwila
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 00:17:55


Major General Smedley Butler
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Also note; Kongolese Christianity incorporating syncretic elements isn't an argument against them, all Europeans adopted syncretic characteristics, as did Asians and Native Americans. This is by design of the Christian faith, and the reason the good men of the church preserved so much Roman and Hellenic lore.
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 12:24:46

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I mean what do you expect history was written by white men do you think they are actually gonna say the advancements of the Congo? Of course they wont! That is why you idiots think they are inferior and what not lol good thing i took a break from this forum lol
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 12:33:04

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^That's a bad argument. Where are their own history books? Japanese people certainly have them and don't need whites to provide their own history.
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 16:21:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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Kikongo already had switched to the Latin alphabet and writing by 1557

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Kikongo-m.jpg
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 17:03:49

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@Tabby That is not a bad argument, don't you know the saying.. "The winners write history."? Cmon, I thought you should know. The Congolese people were absolutely massacred by the Belgians do you think the Belgians will leave any trace of evidence that proves them to be equal to them rather than inferior? Tabby do you even know the only reason Colonialism was not frowned upon by the people? "The White Mans Burden." If the people found out the people their nation is "colonizing" isn't actually uncivilised but rather equal and civilised they will obviously disprove against their goverment! But the goverment doesn't want due to the many benefits of colonization. Okay now try to attack my main points in this paragraph and NOT switch to another point.
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 19:33:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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Note, what I'm saying about the Kongo Kingdom does not apply to all of the modern Congo.
History of the Congo: 8/29/2017 19:36:35


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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If they were equals then how did the Congolese lose?
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