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What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:33:30

AlexandreD 
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Hi,

I am playing a game, and I attacked 1 army with 2 armies and I didn't win...
It's the 1 v 1 multi-day (auto-game), so I think it's O.6*2 = 1.2 so I should have killed it, right? Or am I missing something?

Here is the game : it happened on turn 12 (from Great Basin to Pacific North-West) and on turn 8 (from Jiangxi to Shangai).

Is there a luck factor? I don't think so because it never happened before and the numbers are always the same in this mode.

Thanks,
Alexandre

Edited 8/15/2017 18:38:10
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:36:57


Genghis 
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Kill rates are changed, maybe luck.
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:37:04


Genghis 
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Posted twice by accident

Edited 8/15/2017 18:38:48
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:39:01

AlexandreD 
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They are changed? How? Is there and update?
How does the probabilities work?
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:39:50


Onoma94 
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What are the exact settings in the game you mentioned?
You could link it, too :p

Edited 8/15/2017 18:40:43
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:40:53


Genghis 
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^
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:45:56

AlexandreD 
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Oh sorry I forgot !
I copied the link but I didn't paste it...

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13967709
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 18:55:34


Buns157 
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The neutral you attacked was a 3 not a 2, so your 2 attacked a 2.
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 19:10:19


Genghis 
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Why is buns' post highlighted and special. Can my posts all be highlighted and special?
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 19:23:44

AlexandreD 
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I doublechecked and it was a 2, not a 3. At the beginning of the turn it was a 3, I attacked with 1 army at first to kill one army and then with 2 (so 2 against 1) and it didn't work. It happened twice exactly the same.

Genghis, don't worry, your posts are special for me :)
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 19:38:25


Pardon99
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I assume you're talking about turn 8.

It was a 3 in the beginning so when you attack with 1 army (1*0.7=0.7), the neutral drops to 2 armies. You then need to attack with 3 armies to take the 2 neutrals but you attacked with 2 armies, so you didn't take the territory.
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 19:44:33

AlexandreD 
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Oh, I was mistaken the whole time!

Thanks, I am happy that the game works perfectly haha. Another stupid mistake...

So I had my answer, thanks and sorry for bothering for a something like that, it may sound stupid.
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/15/2017 20:12:04


Beren • apex 
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Don't worry about it. There are lots of people around here who are happy to help newbies. :)
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/16/2017 15:49:41

AlexandreD 
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Today it happened with 3 attacking 2 and this time I am sure about it.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13972026

This game first turn. 0% luck modifier and it worked the first time (in Carthage), but not in Durocortorum.
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/16/2017 15:57:05


wakanarai 
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the last game you linked has a rounding mode of Weighted Random so 3v2 failing in there is a 20% change.

Nothing out of the ordinary in that game either just by looking over the settings really quick.

If you want to know what Weighted Random (WR) does just ask it and i'll try to explain it the best i can. For 0% this is possible but higher % with WR isn't really something i personally could explain
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/16/2017 16:05:10

Alkaizer
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3v2 in weighted random:

3 * .6 = 1.8

It does not round to 2.

There is a dice roll to determine whether 1 or 2 is killed. 80% chance 2 are, 20% chance 1 is.

If it were 16% luck WR then there would be two dice rolls.

The first would determine the luck roll.

Luck would be between -16 and 16, once that was rolled you'd add the result to 1, and multiply by the expected result, and then roll a second dice roll like you do in 0% WR.

Example:

you get a -13 on the luck roll.

This is then .87 * .6 * 3 = 1.566

Now a dice roll determines whether you kill 1 or 2, 56.6% chance for 2, 43.4% for 1.

0% SR has no dice rolls.

non-0% SR has one dice roll.

0% WR has one dice roll.

non-0% WR has two dice rolls.

Edited 8/16/2017 16:33:43
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/16/2017 16:16:55

AlexandreD 
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Ok I get it.

Thanks. I didn't understand these terms at first but now it's clear :)
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/16/2017 17:01:30


timon92 
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@Alkaizer, luck modifier works differently. Please have a look here: https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Luck_Modifier

Edited 8/16/2017 17:02:45
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/18/2017 15:01:27

AlexandreD 
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But I don't get why 3 kills 2 actually in SR.
Because 3*0.6 = 1.8 and 1.8<2
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/18/2017 15:37:37


Krzysztof 
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cause it's rounding to integer, and 1.8 is closer to 2 than 1
What happens when attacking 1 army with 2?: 8/18/2017 15:58:42

AlexandreD 
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Ok, thanks :)
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