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Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 04:43:21


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From the Associated Press Wire 10:18 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. 12 August 2017.

Charlotteville, Virginia (AP) - A car plowed into a crowd of people peacefully protesting a white nationalist rally Saturday in a Virginia college town, killing one person, hurting more than a dozen others and ratcheting up tension in a day full of violent confrontations. Shortly after, a Virginia State Police helicopter that officials said was assisting with the rally crashed outside Charlottesville, killing the pilot and a trooper. The chaos boiled over at what is believed to be the largest group of white nationalists to come together in a decade. The governor declared a state of emergency, and police dressed in riot gear ordered people out.

The Charlottesville Police Department said in a statement Saturday night that James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio also faces three counts of malicious wounding, and one count related to leaving the scene. Col. Martin Kumer, superintendent of the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail, said Fields was in custody there Saturday night. Kumer says he doesn't believe Fields has obtained an attorney yet. He says a bond hearing is scheduled for Monday.


The White Nationalist rally in Charlotteville was in response to plans to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee.

The town is home to the University of Virginia. Prominently featured on the campus is the Rotunda a building designed by Thomas Jefferson. Montecello, the former home of President Jefferson, is in Albemarle County, which is adjacent to Charlottesville.

Although there was violence starting before the rally was to begin at noon, none of the counter protesters killed anyone.

Robert E. Lee publicly urged obedience to the authorities and respect for law and order, during the post Civil War period. This is one of the few things I admire about the man. Robert E. Lee knew the war was over.

Edited 8/13/2017 05:44:29
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 04:52:39

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I agree that both sides should not use violence.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 05:08:23


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Fuck the White supremacists for using Robert E. Lee's statue as an excuse to parade their dumb opinion (and the violence, obviously, as well as having that opinion at all. But I digress). Now his statue will definitely come down and stay down. He's one of the only Confederate individuals who should be remembered for his actions, sentiments, and strategy combined. There are too many Americans as is who don't understand why the South seceded and why the US Civil War was fought.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 05:11:27


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What I crave is that people refrain from violence.

A respect for law and order, and a concern for decency is foundational to civilization, which is a more fragile thing than we might hope.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 05:24:05

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^I strongly agree. Regardless of your cause violence is evil.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 05:38:23


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There is no doubt Robert E. Lee is a fascinating figure, as much for his faults as for his virtues.

One confederate leader I found of interest was Major General Patrick Cleburne.

Cleburne's strategic use of terrain, his ability to hold ground where others failed, and his talent in foiling the movements of the enemy earned him fame, and gained him the nickname "Stonewall of the West." Federal troops were quoted as dreading to see the blue flag of Cleburne's Division across the battlefield. General Robert E. Lee referred to him as "a meteor shining from a clouded sky".


Surprisingly he proposed emancipating the entire population of slaves with the goal of recruiting soldiers from the freedmen, in 1864. The idea that they would fight for the confederate states was remarkably ambitious.

In the wake of Cleburne's proposal his commanding General, Braxton Bragg, was persuaded that he was politically unreliable. Whereas before Patrick Cleburne, who was a remarkably successful leader, had risen in rank with great speed afterward he did not receive even one further promotion.

He died in battle on the 30th of November 1864.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 06:30:17

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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White Nationalism and White Supremacism aren't the same.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 06:57:25


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Notorious White Supremacist Samuel Hyde is reported to have both driven the car into the Antifa crowd and shot down the helicopter.

Opinion: HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
- downvoted post by Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 10:11:00


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The helicopter wasn't shot down.

Sammy "guns" Hyde is a serious problem , someone needs to stop this madman!
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 10:43:40


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Bbbut, bbut the lefts do bad things, too!
Thats totally not representative!
Also muslim terror attacks are way worse!
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 11:55:56

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perp was confirmed as mall pimp and reality TV star "Trex"
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 13:45:26


Cata Cauda
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Oh look what a great country! People kill themselves over a statue! Absolutely barbaric.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 14:36:55


Жұқтыру
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38172365

Oh look what a great country! Women kill their families for no grounds at all! Absolutely barbaric.

Edited 8/13/2017 14:37:11
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 14:39:44


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^ Great comeback. What will Cata say?
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 15:28:42


Cata Cauda
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Comparing 1 insane person to, uh, a few thousands?
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 15:42:19


Rikku 
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Siege of Vienna part II plz
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 15:44:44


Cata Cauda
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You mean part III. There has been 2 sieges already.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 15:53:28


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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more than 2, hungarians once sieged the city too.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 15:59:40


Darth Darth Binks
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Comparing 1 insane person to, uh, a few thousands?
I didn't know all protesters were killers. Thank you very much for enlightening me about this issue, O hater of the term "America."
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 16:07:22


Cata Cauda
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Where did I mention they were all "killers"?

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Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 16:09:16


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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People kill themselves over a statue!
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 16:12:35


Cata Cauda
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I didn't know all protesters were killers.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 16:39:55


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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They are not you stated them to be.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 16:54:00


Cata Cauda
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I never said they were all killers.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 17:11:00


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Oh look what a great country! People kill themselves over a statue! Absolutely barbaric.

Comparing 1 insane person to, uh, a few thousands?


In these two statements you implied that "a few thousands" of people were killing themselves over a statue, which is factually wrong.

Stop playing semantics and just admit you said something stupid.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 17:11:12


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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People kill themselves over a statue!
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 17:13:26


Cata Cauda
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n these two statements you implied that "a few thousands" of people were killing themselves over a statue, which is factually wrong.

Stop playing semantics and just admit you said something stupid.
No, I was responding to 2 different people.

At first I commented people killing others because of a statue. In the second response I was critising Juq comparign 1 insane person with thousands.

Edited 8/13/2017 17:17:17
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 17:21:49


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There weren't "thousands" of insane people, just a small assortment.

Juq was trying to show you how stupid it is to call an entire country barbaric over a minority of crazies.
Charlotteville Virginia Violence: 8/13/2017 18:01:27


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Cata's hell-bent on destroying Ameri-*ahem* US-America. There's no use trying to fix her.
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