I like the idea, and the design is nice and different from regular. I agree about enlarging it though, and tinkering with the tiny nations as it's mostly unplayable now.

@lakerman
Ehh....ok.

@Francisco
Thanks; currently working on said problems.

Alright guys, I took all your concerns in and made all the changes I thought the map needed like...
- Bigger size.
- More territories.
- Big territory division.
and etc.

I added the names to most of the people who helped in the bottom-left corner. Just sent the map to Fizzer, hopefully this time it's up to par. Thanks for all the help.

Preview: http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8266

in northwest africa, guinea doesnt connect to gambia.

Not supposed to since senegal completely surrounds the gambia in real life (he's going for a political map) so his map is fine connection wise

there are two bonuses named angola. gabon and equitorial guinea do not connect with each other. this is on just one continent.

@lakerman, i dont know what countries border the gambia off-hand, very few people would. looking at the map, those two territories clearly border each other. if the missing connection is correct, the map is drawn wrong.

also, the maritime connections are quite confusing. the lines are almost as wide as they are long in some connections, it makes the map look bad. and then, there are no lines between some islands. just glancing at the map, it appears that the entire nunavut bonus is one territory (which would make a lot of sense but whatever). same goes for hawaii, philippines, vancouver island etc. there are no lines showing connections to jamaica or from alaska to russia. there is a connection between french polynesia and chile, but no connection between french polynesia and samoa or tuvalu. this map is purported to be political, but 'north[ern] ireland' belongs neither to ireland nor britain. would be fine if wales and scotland were seperated, but they arent. and no palestinian territories, no seperate territory for tibet. nunavut has 13 territories while india (pop 1.2 bn) has 1.

once again geography understanding is needed

1) the two "angola" bonuses is technically correct since the province of cabinda is part of angola and should be considered part of it (although he should rename it to cabinda or just join the two)

although i agree with your statements on tibet and palestine in that they should be seperate and there are many other inconsitencies (also i don't know why he made north africa and northwestern africa when he could have just made north africa which is the mediterranean coast, west africa which is the atlantic coast going from mauritania south and use the traditional ethno-geogrphaic divisions of africa)

and yes your other statements are all correct, and the map needs some work yes, but i still believe he could make a decent political world map

some bonus still need enlarging u will discover in the testing phase u will not be to fit a single digit on most

I really like what you've done to change this. Though there are quite a few things that I think would make it a great map (ie, more playable, more demographically/culturally accurate), instead of just an artistic yet historically/geographically/culturally inaccurate map:

- I dislike your Far East bonus: (1) China as 1 separate bonus (including Taiwan -- to end the Chinese Civil War!); (2) Japan-Koreas as 1 bonus of 4 territories
- Australia as 1 bonus. Oceania as another; (3) [redraw China using China Proper as 1 territory please](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_proper) -- it'd look better than your random lines and would be more historically/culturally/geographically accurate
- I very much dislike 'The East' bonus: (1) Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia should be a separate bonus (river systems, tonal languages, history, religion, cultural similarities all make them distinct); (2) Pakistan should be in a bonus with Afghanistan and Iran, not India; (3) India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma should be a separate bonus called 'The Subcontinent'
- Middle East/Muslim world: try to do a better job of dividing these countries up! How I'd divide these countries into bonuses: (1) Oil States (worth 1: United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait: connect the latter two); (2) Arabian Peninsula (worth 1: Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia); (3) [The Levant](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant) (worth 2: Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel); (4) Middle East (worth 2: Turkey, Iraq, Iran); (5) Afpak (worth 1: Afghanistan, Pakistan)
- Your Caucuses: take out Turkey & make it worth 1
- Russia: divide it up into (1) European Russia; (2) Asiatic Russia; (3) Russian Islands; and (4) Russia (a bonus for unifying Russia)
- Your 'North Europe' is Central Europe in real life
- West Europe could be divided into three smaller bonuses, 2 based on language (Romance West Europe, Germanic West Europe), 1 based on geography (Islands: Iceland, Irelands, Britain).
- Britain: Scotland, England, Wales?
- South America is too big & simplistic: (1) Andean states are distinct in many ways; (2) Brazil as its own bonus (worth 1-2); (3) Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Falklands as 1 bonus; (4) French Guiana, Suriname, Guyana as a bonus (worth 1); (5) Columbia and Venezuala as a bonus (worth 1)?
-Africa is a mess: (1) in real life, North Africa tends to mean "Africa along the Mediterranean and north of Sub-Sahara Africa'(you mix the Mediterranean and Sub-Saharan worlds!); (2) the rest of Africa is just a geographic, demographic, religious, linguistic mess (more so than in real life!): if I were you, I'd study how most people tend to divide Africa (based on languages, religions, regions, topography, etc.) and find something more suitable and playable; currently, how you divided Africa is not playable or realistic (making it entirely arbitrary)
- Azores: (1) no need to make it a part of any bonus (like Japan on Fizzer's ladder map); (2) connect it to Cuba! (the Spanish Empire was connected in this way)
- Puerto Rico as part of Caribbean bonus: no need to make it part of the US (you didn't add other American territories, so why add this one? Keeping the US limited to the states and not adding the territories would make your map more playable)
- US: (1) please redraw the borders in the continental US (Europe looks nice, Africa looks nice, US looks ugly); (2) make Texas its own territory (it is distinct from 'The South' in certain ways; this would also help make your other borders look nicer); (3) I'd limit the US bonus to 'Continental US'; and (4) have Alaska & Hawaii be a separate bonus worth 1
- Hawaii = 1 territory (and connecting to Marshall Islands: Hawaii is a historical naval base, we Americans took it bc we wanted to expand into Asia, and Guam is another important US naval base -- talks of redeploying troops from Japan to Guam are off and on, while Guam's naval base recently was expanded).

- if puerto rico is grouped with the US, falkland islands should be grouped with britain. what do you think thatcher started that war for? re-election?
- kaliningrad
- i didnt know that about angola, although that territory isnt even included in the africa map
- to add to what gui says about texas, the pacific northwest should be split from the parts taken from mexico
- more on america: your new england bonus extends further southwest than it should, your 'southern US' extends too far northeast. id have an 'eastern seabord' or 'east coast' bonus to represent boston, new york city, washington dc, baltimore, delaware, new jersey, etc. right now you have three bonuses converging on the most populous area
- bermuda
- to expand on what gui says about south america, you could group the south american countries liberated by simon bolivar, peru, ecuador, colombia, venezuela, bolivia
- maybe make mexico a bonus and split it up into more territories. make a bonus of the small countries between mexico and colombia. "america's backyard"
- cuba should be linked to florida?

that last point should say "maybe cuba ...". also just noticed that cyprus is included in the territory as turkey. cyprus should be its own, single territory, or be split into turkish (north) and greek (south) cyprus. it should also be connected to israel. also, you have a sardinia but not a corsica. what gui said about the ugliness of the us in comparison to the rest of the borders also goes for the borders in the other territories which used to all be part of one larger territory (russia, china, australia, brazil etc etc etc. those tiny islands which you still have in antarctica would really piss me off were i playing on this map.

maybe shift hawaii and french polynesia to the right side of the map, seperate oceania into 'oceania' (australia, tasmania and new zealand) and 'pacific islands'? i dont know where christmas island would fit into that.

Fizzer has said that my territories are still to small, so I currently revoked the public phase. In the mean time, I'll be starting a test game and listening to your guys' suggestions.

Time to give my response...
@Gui
- I think dividing China into the districts is a good idea. I'll do that as soon as I can.
- I'm trying to divide up the Pacific Islands and Australia...though I'm not sure I completely endorse your idea. We'll see.
- Maybe.
- I really disagree with you on this one. Doing that would be a bit unprofessional and create too many little worthless bonuses.
- I think Caucasus is fine at the moment, but we'll see.
- I'm going to divide Russia more, but I'm not feeling your ideas right now.
- Thanks! Changed.
- Eh...there's a chance, but again, that would be creating a lot of bonuses.
- Good idea! I'll get on that.
- Too many small bonuses. But I understand what you mean by too simplistic though. Might divide it up.
- Bleh, ok. I'll working on reforming the bonuses.
- I think I'll keep it as is.
- Alright, I'll make it part of the Caribbean.
- Ok, I'll redraw it soon.
- I think it's fine as is, but I'll connect it to the other side of the map.

@[WM] x
- Answer ^.
- Kalningrad? What about it? o_o
- I went ahead and renamed it Angola (Cabinda).
- Yeah, I'm working on redividing it.
- ^
- Might be too small and it would be unrealistic for me to size it up. But I'll see.
- Yeah maybe.
- Blehh. I think Central America is fine as is, to be honest.
- Why not?
- Turkey is fine, but I'll add Corsica. Working on the US, as said. And what do you mean by the tiny Antarctic islands? They're not even that small. O_o

kaliningrad is a part of russia. you have it as a part of lithuania.

and they arent that small compared to some other territories, but because they lie on the edge of the map, it makes them a lot harder to spot/issue orders from. imagine if on random cities distribution you got one of those islands. you might not even notice it for a while unless you had a distinctive colour.

Im making a map of pacific front ww2 and its pretty close to that.
pretty beast map

i will play

i will