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Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 10:25:01


Nintorii 
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I'm (almost) done with my Large World map. All I need to do is find missing territory connections, mentioned by Fizzer. You can help me find them by going to [here](http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8266). If you find one or two, maybe I'll hide your name somewhere in the map. ;)

I'm also starting a multi-day test game. If you wish to be invited, just say so in this thread. Thanks guys!
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 10:47:18


MilitaryManiac 
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I will play on the test map.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 14:39:09


Moros 
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I don't really like this map, because of these reasons:

1. Too small territories, such as Macedonia, Albania, "North Turkey", Angola.., I bet they can't even fit a single digit.
2. Missing connection lines e.g. Canary Island-Morocco, Cape Verde-Senegal/The Gambia, and lot's of others in Indonesia, Canada, Japan...
3. Wrong title: you call it "Large Earth", but it isn't that much bigger than Grundie's world map! Some areas are even less divided, such as the USA, China, Russia. Just that a few islands are divided, doesn't make a map large. I mean, with this title, people expect the map to be the same, but with more territories than the original earth. But once they look at Russia, they're dissapointed because all of Russia is merged into one "superterritory" that borders 17 other states! (it should be 18, it doesn't connect to Korea.
4. Nostalgic reasons, people have played the earth map for so long, nobody wants to play a map that looks like a bad copy.

Please consider all of these reasons before you release this map, I think it really has potential!
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 17:32:26

[FM]lakerman1495
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I'd love to be part of this test game and fyi, south sudan is an independent nation so you have to fix sudan
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 17:36:05


Domenico
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Same for Montenegro. Either you have to separate Montenegro from Serbia or you have to call Serbia *Serbia and Montenegro*.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 17:59:26


Richard Sharpe 
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Moros is right. Some of the territories are miniscule and won't come anywhere CLOSE to fitting an army. For reference, the bonus numbers are the same size as the army numbers font-wise. North Turkey is maybe one tenth the size of the bonus number.

So I would recommend enlarging the map by a factor of ten or so at the least. Of course, this means all center points have to be redone...
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 18:03:09


Richard Sharpe 
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Also, why have every island of Hawaii count as a territory even though the continental US is one territory? So now Hawaii is 4 times harder to take than the other 48 states... makes no sense there.

Also, why is Nunavut broken apart from Canada when nothing else is?

Finally, why is Greenland equal to Scandinavia? One has 1 territory, the other has 4 but both are worth 2 armies? That makes zero sense to me.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 18:42:40


Nintorii 
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@Moros
1. Ok, decent point. I'll see what I can do.

2. Canary Island to Morocco is already connected; Cape Verde to Senegal is already connected, and I can't find any others in the specified areas. Not sure what you're talking about. Though if you still see it, please be gracious as to point it out.
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3. Ehhh...I can sorta see where you're coming from, but still...so far there's a 78 territory difference, and counting. If people really want me to divide the big areas up, I will, it was just supposed to be a political map of sorts. I'll possibly look into it. Thanks for saying the Russia doesn't connect to Korea though.

4. Not your best argument, I'll be honest. I always love trying out new maps.

@RichardSharpe
I'm working on enlarging a bunch of the territories.

There's no good reason for it; they're separate islands and I honored them as so.

Because I wanted some diversion between Nunavut and Canada. Nunavut is just such a large bonus.

Don't criticize me if you don't look hard enough. Take a second look at Greenland. :P
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@Domenico
Ok, thank you.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 18:46:53


Richard Sharpe 
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If you want me to look hard enough, don't make your territories miniscule. As I said before, you need to enlarge by a factor of ten if not more.

Also, your bottom grouping of bonuses has an 'Arctic' bonus but it highlights the Antarctic. They are distinctly different terms.

Also, why have two bonuses for South America? From what I can see the two have the same territories but two separate bonuses.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 18:48:32

[FM]lakerman1495
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He has two bonuses for South America because he wanted a bonus per continent and he couldn't divide south america into two seperate bonuses (you could try having brazil and 1,2 territories and the rest of SA be a bonus though)
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 19:22:25


Perrin3088 
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As much as I'd love to have a large world map.. this one looks more like it deserves the name 'politically correct world map'
Large World Testing Phase: 1/7/2012 20:29:32


Domenico
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Incidentally, Serbia doesn't connect to Croatia or Bulgaria.
Although that means I've deserved an honourable mention, I'd rather not be mentioned, because, frankly, I agree with Moros, Richard, and Perrin.

What Moros meant, by the way, was that there is a connection, but that there is no line depicting it. That is necessary for any serious map.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/8/2012 02:27:27


x 
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"If people really want me to divide the big areas up, I will, it was just supposed to be a political map of sorts."

you really need to consider what makes a good map good (or even a playable map playable). the idea of making an earth map the same size as east asia or africa or something similar is a good one, and i think it would be quite popular if done right. but your map is very unbalanced in terms of territory and bonus size, the metabonuses are too signifant and maybe unnecessary when the actual bonuses arent so large.

i dont understand some of the choices you have made regarding what countries to include, a good example as someone already mentioned is hawaii, which has four territories, as well as alaska and puerto rico having their own entire territories, while the 'lower 48' are all together. even in the normal earth map, america is split up into east and west, i think 14 terrtiories altogether, with hawaii and alaska are seperate 0 bonuses. you include the tiniest islands in canada, but then have one huge territory covering about 80% of its area. if youre going to include 'west antarctica', a territory so small you can hardly notice it, you really need to go the whole way and include the pacific islands, split up russia into about 30 territories maybe, etc etc etc. then the metabonuses would make more sense. its like youve taken the regular earth map, said 'im going to split this one territory into 20 territories, and merge these 15 territories into one territory'.

another thing is that you have, for example, the maldives connected to reunion island, and yet no connections from east to west.

if you fixed all these things, your map would be less ugly, although i think it would still be somewhat confusing aesthetically. i think matma rex posted some advice on this to the forums before. i dont know what it is exactly, but you should try to copy the design of your map from a pre-existing one.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/8/2012 22:00:18


Ironheart
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good map but some territories aren't even worth it u should hav put hawai islands together north turkey and turkey e.t.c so need joining or removing.And why is a Philippians a bonus makes no sense u should have made it whle one and jioned it with far east bonus or make no bonus
Large World Testing Phase: 1/8/2012 22:02:26


Ironheart
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also u added kuwait and some less know places and u didn't add Qatar.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/9/2012 02:41:41


i-like-swords
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I agree with many of what people said. The division of some of the smaller areas, ie the Philippines and Hawaii, while keeping the much larger countries together is senseless. I would have expected from the title an exact copy of the Earth map with further division in areas with large territories such as Brazil and India. Try combining the smaller islands with a larger territory to make them stand out more. Add connecting lines to indicate non-consecutive territories do connect. This map has a lot of potential, but it needs a bit more work.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/9/2012 04:13:40


Nintorii 
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I'm taking it all into consideration. I'll divide america, russia, and china, and combine some islands. I'll post an update when I'm done.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/9/2012 19:06:26


Ironheart
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if u are going to split Russia split it Europe Russia Urals Siberia and maybe more
Large World Testing Phase: 1/10/2012 02:15:16


Nintorii 
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Update 1.2:
Features:
+Sardinia and Qatar.
Removed continental bonuses. Felt they were a glitchy distraction.
+Russian districts.

Fixes:
Russia.
(Some) small islands.

Next Update:
Division of US, Canada, and China.
And the dreaded fixing of the small territories...ug.

Keep posting missing links, territories, and suggestions. Appreciate it.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/10/2012 02:27:36

[FM]lakerman1495
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Change middle earth to Central Asia or Caucas region (there is no region called middle earth)
Large World Testing Phase: 1/10/2012 03:01:42


{rp} Clavicus Vile 
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I like the idea, and the design is nice and different from regular. I agree about enlarging it though, and tinkering with the tiny nations as it's mostly unplayable now.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/10/2012 04:18:53


Nintorii 
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@lakerman
Ehh....ok.

@Francisco
Thanks; currently working on said problems.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 00:14:31


Nintorii 
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Alright guys, I took all your concerns in and made all the changes I thought the map needed like...
- Bigger size.
- More territories.
- Big territory division.
and etc.

I added the names to most of the people who helped in the bottom-left corner. Just sent the map to Fizzer, hopefully this time it's up to par. Thanks for all the help.

Preview: http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8266
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 05:32:07


x 
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in northwest africa, guinea doesnt connect to gambia.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 05:35:39

[FM]lakerman1495
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Not supposed to since senegal completely surrounds the gambia in real life (he's going for a political map) so his map is fine connection wise
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 06:10:38


x 
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there are two bonuses named angola. gabon and equitorial guinea do not connect with each other. this is on just one continent.

@lakerman, i dont know what countries border the gambia off-hand, very few people would. looking at the map, those two territories clearly border each other. if the missing connection is correct, the map is drawn wrong.

also, the maritime connections are quite confusing. the lines are almost as wide as they are long in some connections, it makes the map look bad. and then, there are no lines between some islands. just glancing at the map, it appears that the entire nunavut bonus is one territory (which would make a lot of sense but whatever). same goes for hawaii, philippines, vancouver island etc. there are no lines showing connections to jamaica or from alaska to russia. there is a connection between french polynesia and chile, but no connection between french polynesia and samoa or tuvalu. this map is purported to be political, but 'north[ern] ireland' belongs neither to ireland nor britain. would be fine if wales and scotland were seperated, but they arent. and no palestinian territories, no seperate territory for tibet. nunavut has 13 territories while india (pop 1.2 bn) has 1.
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 06:19:40

[FM]lakerman1495
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once again geography understanding is needed

1) the two "angola" bonuses is technically correct since the province of cabinda is part of angola and should be considered part of it (although he should rename it to cabinda or just join the two)

although i agree with your statements on tibet and palestine in that they should be seperate and there are many other inconsitencies (also i don't know why he made north africa and northwestern africa when he could have just made north africa which is the mediterranean coast, west africa which is the atlantic coast going from mauritania south and use the traditional ethno-geogrphaic divisions of africa)
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 06:22:28

[FM]lakerman1495
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and yes your other statements are all correct, and the map needs some work yes, but i still believe he could make a decent political world map
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 08:45:00


Ironheart
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some bonus still need enlarging u will discover in the testing phase u will not be to fit a single digit on most
Large World Testing Phase: 1/15/2012 09:22:35

Qi 
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I really like what you've done to change this. Though there are quite a few things that I think would make it a great map (ie, more playable, more demographically/culturally accurate), instead of just an artistic yet historically/geographically/culturally inaccurate map:

- I dislike your Far East bonus: (1) China as 1 separate bonus (including Taiwan -- to end the Chinese Civil War!); (2) Japan-Koreas as 1 bonus of 4 territories
- Australia as 1 bonus. Oceania as another; (3) [redraw China using China Proper as 1 territory please](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_proper) -- it'd look better than your random lines and would be more historically/culturally/geographically accurate
- I very much dislike 'The East' bonus: (1) Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia should be a separate bonus (river systems, tonal languages, history, religion, cultural similarities all make them distinct); (2) Pakistan should be in a bonus with Afghanistan and Iran, not India; (3) India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma should be a separate bonus called 'The Subcontinent'
- Middle East/Muslim world: try to do a better job of dividing these countries up! How I'd divide these countries into bonuses: (1) Oil States (worth 1: United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait: connect the latter two); (2) Arabian Peninsula (worth 1: Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia); (3) [The Levant](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant) (worth 2: Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel); (4) Middle East (worth 2: Turkey, Iraq, Iran); (5) Afpak (worth 1: Afghanistan, Pakistan)
- Your Caucuses: take out Turkey & make it worth 1
- Russia: divide it up into (1) European Russia; (2) Asiatic Russia; (3) Russian Islands; and (4) Russia (a bonus for unifying Russia)
- Your 'North Europe' is Central Europe in real life
- West Europe could be divided into three smaller bonuses, 2 based on language (Romance West Europe, Germanic West Europe), 1 based on geography (Islands: Iceland, Irelands, Britain).
- Britain: Scotland, England, Wales?
- South America is too big & simplistic: (1) Andean states are distinct in many ways; (2) Brazil as its own bonus (worth 1-2); (3) Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Falklands as 1 bonus; (4) French Guiana, Suriname, Guyana as a bonus (worth 1); (5) Columbia and Venezuala as a bonus (worth 1)?
-Africa is a mess: (1) in real life, North Africa tends to mean "Africa along the Mediterranean and north of Sub-Sahara Africa'(you mix the Mediterranean and Sub-Saharan worlds!); (2) the rest of Africa is just a geographic, demographic, religious, linguistic mess (more so than in real life!): if I were you, I'd study how most people tend to divide Africa (based on languages, religions, regions, topography, etc.) and find something more suitable and playable; currently, how you divided Africa is not playable or realistic (making it entirely arbitrary)
- Azores: (1) no need to make it a part of any bonus (like Japan on Fizzer's ladder map); (2) connect it to Cuba! (the Spanish Empire was connected in this way)
- Puerto Rico as part of Caribbean bonus: no need to make it part of the US (you didn't add other American territories, so why add this one? Keeping the US limited to the states and not adding the territories would make your map more playable)
- US: (1) please redraw the borders in the continental US (Europe looks nice, Africa looks nice, US looks ugly); (2) make Texas its own territory (it is distinct from 'The South' in certain ways; this would also help make your other borders look nicer); (3) I'd limit the US bonus to 'Continental US'; and (4) have Alaska & Hawaii be a separate bonus worth 1
- Hawaii = 1 territory (and connecting to Marshall Islands: Hawaii is a historical naval base, we Americans took it bc we wanted to expand into Asia, and Guam is another important US naval base -- talks of redeploying troops from Japan to Guam are off and on, while Guam's naval base recently was expanded).
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