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http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8543

Let me know what you thinking about bonuses. Is there better for bigger countries to split national bonuses? For example: North and South Italy...

1. Are you making a different version for every time you edit the svg file? Since that isn't really necessary, and I think Fizzer won't like it because now you're using three possible links for 1 map.

2. I think you shouldn't split national bonuses, since they're already something extra, just something to get as an extra motivation when conquering territory after territory. Also I think you shouldn't rely that much on population for making the map, because if you do, I think lot's of people are going to start in the Netherlands, with 12 territories (if you're dividing by the provinces) and 16 million residents. In fact, the Netherlands and Belgium are the two most densely populated large countries in Europe, making them very valuable places to start if you make the bonus dependent of the population. Or, you could divide the Netherlands in the 42 COROP-areas, but those would be really small compared to the other territories in the map. But, it's your map, so do with it whatever you want.

In fact, the Netherlands and Belgium are the two most densely populated large countries in Europe

The Netherlands and Belgium are large countries...!? ROTFL

Oh and ontopic: she's a beauty, keep up the good work!

It's one map family now.
Thank you for advices, Netherlands will have 20-30 territories, no more.
I was split Iceland in 8 territories. Switzerland is finished...

@RvW

Compared to the other countries with very high population density in europe, Vatican City and Monaco, the Netherlands ans Belgium are pretty large I must say.

@Loki

20-30 is good, the same can be done for Belgium, you can use this map, and perhaps merge a few regions.
http://www.lemondejudiciaire.be/Images/mapfl.jpg

And good luck on the rest of your map, it looks great!

The value of the Madrid bonus is in a five-pointed star, instead of the circle you've used for all other bonuses. Do you have special plans with capital cities or something?

@Moros: Don't worry, I understood what you meant. It just sounded a little strange, that's all. :)

Your bonus-map is a clever idea, but I think it'd be better if you placed these as regular bonus links (just larger than for smaller bonuses).

First, on a map this big, everyone will probably be always zoomed in on a certain place, and this will force them to zoom out to check bonus value; second, Warlight uses a very simple algorithm to determine "center" of a polygon - it just takes the center of its bounding box - and as you can see already, this can produce "unnatural" results, for example on Spain or Croatia.

I'm very excited to see this map when it's done! Good job guys!

The bonuses within each State are meant to map unto administrative divisions? If that is the case, in Spain there should only be two Castillas (Castilla León and Castilla la Mancha), and not four (Castilla, Castilla la Mancha, Castilla Nueva and León).

I ask because I've noticed that the territories do not match administrative divisions, while some bonuses do and others don't.

Also, the bonus for Catalonia is missing.

Great idea, great map!

Regarding the "super-bonus map", I don't think it's such a problem. Think about it, when do you want to look at it? When you're planning strategy (large scale), you'll be zoomed out than anyway. Of course you'll be zoomed in a lot, but at that time, the "mini map" (to borrow a term from RTS games) doesn't matter anyway.

Of course, it would be really sweet if we could get Fizzer to implement a (floating) window that actually implements a minimap; an actual minimap by default, but which map-makers can override with something else if they wish. </I can dream ;)>

Warlight uses a very simple algorithm to determine "center" of a polygon - it just takes the center of its bounding box - and as you can see already, this can produce "unnatural" results, for example on Spain or Croatia.

I can think of three possibilities which might/could work:

• Make a (gray) outline of the countries, with a normal bonus square in it. Doesn't look as good, but does work.

• Determine where you want to bonus number to appear. Make a square, centred around that point and big enough to cover the whole country. Make this the bonus area. Then, draw a "negative" of the country on top of that, to "cut" the square into the correct shape. Careful, I'm not sure whether this will work! (It definitely would NOT work for territories, since Z-order is ignored by WL, but I have no idea what rules apply for bonuses.)

• Ask Fizzer to allow (optionally) determining centre points for bonus polygons.

The easiest way would be to compose each bonus shape of two parts; the outline of the country (which ??somehow?? gets the correct colour) but which doesn't show the bonus value, and a (manually positionable) square which follows the normal bonus-square rules. Unfortunately I have no idea how to make that outline... :(

You know what, a minimap is a damn cool idea.

Now, coming back to the bonus links:

• Bonus links always appear over everything (including territories). I don't know what rules apply to positioning of one bonus link over another.
• If you really really wanted, you could probably draw the regular outline, pick the place where you want a number, draw a square centered on that place, and then create some tiny dots at its corners and merge them with the regular outline (essentially creating a multipart polygon; Ctrl + + or Ctrl + K in Inkscape). These dot will be visible, but only a little. In fact, you could probably make the square huge and place the dots outside of regular map area?
• I also wonder if it's possible to create multiple bonus links referring to the same bonus - clicking any of them would highlight it.

Well, I guess we'll have to test these (unless Fizzer appears and gives us answers). I don't have time now, but definitely will tomorrow.

@Matma Rex

Sorry, your third idea isn't going to work, you can't make two objects in InkScape with identical ID's. :,(

Perhaps you can split Kosovo and Metohija away from Southern Serbia as a different bonus since it is de facto independent and even if still recognized as part of Serbia, it would still be considered an autonomous province like Vojvodina.

Here's a test. http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8627

In short - won't work, Warlight doesn't support multipart bonus links - the clickable area of bonus 6 is much larger than the actual object, obstructing territries and other bonus links.

And here's another. http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8628

It's the same, but with bonus 6 killed and one more test - two bonus links pointing to the same territory. Turns out it is possible, but can't be done in Inkscape (or probably any other editor), since the SVG is technically invalid - no two ids are allowed to have the same value (I forgot about this yesterday, thanks Moros). I simply modified the .svg in Notepad.

It "breaks" when you open it in Inkscape - it changes one of the ids to avoid the clash, but if you really felt like it, it's doable.

Matma, good idea to just try and see what happens.

Unfortunately, after seeing your test break, I checked something on Europe Big and... the national bonuses are messed up there as well :(
Currently, nothing happens when you click a bonus (they're not linked with territories yet), but just hover over Belarus and read the tooltip that pops up: "Russia". And no, it's not simply labelled incorrectly, you can hover over different parts of Finland and see either "Finland" or "Russia", depending on the exact location. :(

Are you also including Vatican city?

sardenga and the baleric islands connect to no mainland

"Currently, nothing happens when you click a bonus (they're not linked with territories yet), but just hover over Belarus and read the tooltip that pops up: "Russia"."
Fixed.

"Are you also including Vatican city?"
I don't know. Should I?

"sardenga and the baleric islands connect to no mainland"
Thx for information. :D
I will connect it at the end...

"the value of the Madrid bonus is in a five-pointed star, instead of the circle you've used for all other bonuses. Do you have special plans with capital cities or something?"
It will be capitals cities in distribution.

"The bonuses within each State are meant to map unto administrative divisions? If that is the case, in Spain there should only be two Castillas (Castilla León and Castilla la Mancha), and not four (Castilla, Castilla la Mancha, Castilla Nueva and León)."
Almost no country is divided as it is in reality, due to better fit the game. There shouldn't be a bonus more than 15 territories so that's why I separated 4 Castillas.

Matma Rex
Thx for ideas.;)

I think Vatican City should be included, because San Marino is too. And because no map for so far shows dwarf nations, and I'm glad you did.

Btw, are you adding Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia too? Because those are African countries.
And Lithuania is called Lietuva, and there are no bonus links for Luxembourg, Cyprus or Kalinigrad.