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meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 16:32:25


Wally Balls 
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meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 17:46:25


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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You don't even know the US election system...

Edited 5/9/2017 17:46:58
meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 17:49:00


Rikku 
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How will drumpf ever recover
meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 18:02:56


Wally Balls 
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You don't even know the US election system...


You talking to Conan? I doubt he reads this forum. Maybe you can Tweet that to him.
meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 18:06:31


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^ Touchè
meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 19:33:32


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Austria round 2 first vote: Hofer gets -4% compared to opinion polls
Austria round 2 second vote: Hofer gets -3% compared to opinion polls
Netherlands: Wilders get -2% compared to opinion polls.
France: Le Pen gets -4% compared to opinion polls.

Who are the polls rigged in favour of again?

Edited 5/9/2017 19:34:11
meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 20:05:41


OnlyThePie
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Stalin. They're rigged in favor of Stalin.
meanwhile, in france: 5/9/2017 20:35:47


Empire of Kilos
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Ahh France, continuing the tradition of surrendering I see...
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 00:45:40

[WOLF]Andrew
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Surrendering to tolerance and progress, what a shame.
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 01:23:02


Von Jewburg
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Wally, you can't deny there's a problem at this point. It's obvious that bringing in millions of refugees, some who may or may not be actual refugees, and not bothering to integrate them leads to widespread terrorist attacks. France has lost hundreds in the past 3 years to Islamic terrorists. Many of them were the children of immigrants or recent immigrants. Paris is under fucking de facto military occupation because of the amount of terror attacks. And its not even the big things. Muggings, theft, murder, sexual assault. They've also increased coincidentally since the migrant crisis. And yet they're going to take in even more.

France is a dying dog. Either we sit another five years and watch the horrors of the past few years be repeated, an then France decides to have border control, or Le Pen was elected. If anything, Macron's win will merely give rise to the far right. They lost because Le Pen was associated with her garbage father, whom the French political parties have labelled as a Nazi (he was much worse than Marine). If things go as they have been for the last five years in France, AKA economic troubles, high unemployment, and the possibility that someone you know in your town could be shot, stabbed, run over, or bombed by a man the French government does not even know the name of. And there can only be so long that people can "just deal with it" before they elect someone who will take action.
If Macron makes France better, good for him. I'll admit I was wrong. But its unlikely it will be that way. Le Pen had no chance of winning, but this election will hopefully sow enough resentment to have a competent right-wing candidate in France. And it will have the backing of the people, Wally. Because you can only claim "he was a troubled boy" for so long when they're all 30 year old radical Muslims from the Middle East and North Africa, all of whom have had ties with a terrorist group.
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 01:56:13


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I don't like Le Pen much. The frustrating thing about European politics is that you can either choose between an International Socialist or a National Socialist. (NOTE: Le Pen isn't a Nazi. She is just both a Nationalist and a Socialist.)

Nobody says "Wouldn't it be great if everybody could keep more of what they earn?" or "What if the people had more choice over what they wanted to buy instead of the regulatory state deciding for them?"

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meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 03:27:49


Wally Balls 
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Tabby what do you think about the genetics of black people? I think a QJB like you probably thinks they are genetically inferior.

Edited 5/10/2017 03:28:06
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 06:08:25


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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This thread is probably cancer. Macron is President and we should hope for him to improve the situation.
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 07:12:46


Жұқтыру
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Wally, you can't deny there's a problem at this point. It's obvious that bringing in millions of refugees


10s of thousands =/= millions...

not bothering to integrate them leads to widespread terrorist attacks


just let folk be what culture they want, as long as it's not criminal. And no, most folk who don't "integrate" don't lead to widespread dread. At most, they riot; the dreadknights don't just on a whim decide it; it's preplanned.

Also, enough exaggeration of dread. It's nowhere near common murderers. Anyhow, yes, it is worse for France in the short time most likely at current policy but to say it's a "dying dog" is a colossal exxageration; it's just letting a better-equipped more-developped country deal with problems that would otherwise be in underfunded camps in Jordan and nearby, which comparitively have trouble keeping their own folk well.

France has lost hundreds in the past 3 years


And 800 roughly die from common murderers each year; thousands from air pollution, and over 500k each year. To put it into perspect, the roughly ~80 killed each year from Islaamish dreadknights raises the murder rate per 100k from 1.1 to 1.2. Not to also say that there is a very harsh vetting process for the actual refugees in Syria; most are other immigrants on their own, though.

Paris is under fucking de facto military occupation because of the amount of terror attacks.


Yes, under French military occupation.

Macron's win will merely give rise to the far right


idk if you know this but he is right himself, and some would argue that this election has given rise to the far left; there have been many riots between extreme socialists and police.

AKA economic troubles


Oh yes, 6th in median income (from countries with over 10 million pop.), staying at 29th ease-of-doing business. Having 10th in GHP by head, having a 1,5% yearly growth of GHP since 2012, and estimated to grow 2,5% yearly to 2019; where even the bottom 10% make more than in America, Japan, and in Russia; where 0% the population is starving or is below the UN poverty line. One of the last countries in inflation. Anyway you look at it, there's no "troubles" - it might be worse than the best, but it's still by far a firstworld growing country.

high unemployment


to be frank, though, with all the welfare programmes the government has, it's not terrible if you're unemployed. And considering that they have all the EU to look for jobs (which has a lower unemployment rate), it's not as bad as it looks.

the possibility that someone you know in your town could be shot, stabbed, run over, or bombed by a man


Although few folk are killed and injured, a lot of folk are affected emotionally often. It's just a ripple effect. It's estimated that the 2011 Oslo attacks closely (they had a list of criteria), 1/4 Norwegians knew someone or were affected by the attacks, despite 77 folk dying. 1,25 million folk knew someone that was inconvenienced by the attacks. But it's important not to let emotions and unlikely what-ifs into polit. Do you know someone in the USA, shot, stabbed, poisoned, run over, or bombed? Despite having the equivalent murder rate of France's if it had 23x the Islaamish dread, you somehow survived that? Wow.
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 11:05:04


Ranek
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You don't even know the US election system...


you mean electoral college and gerrymandering?
meanwhile, in france: 5/10/2017 16:52:37


Belgian Gentleman 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_-KoBiBG0

I heard Macron has replaced the french anthem with this one
meanwhile, in france: 5/15/2017 05:03:45


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^
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Yes, i meant electoral college.
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