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College Talk: 3/30/2017 01:46:14

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College is boring.

You should take the time to get an internship.

Even if you have nil experience, it is possible to get something. And you will slowly climb the social ladder with all the connections & bigger resume.

It is also an opportunity to get money or know the main ins and outs of the profession.
Majors fields / competencies and all that... The people at work place will likely give more referral and stuff for self-studying than teachers.

Once you do the internship, it is possible they hire you after you get out of UNI almost immediately.

INTERNSHIP IS VERY GOOD MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH. ALSO GIVES YOU BETTER ODDS OF EMPLOYABILITY.

Usually, there is a way to arrange internships with your establishment.
Once you find a way to do internship, you will surely climb the social ladder with much better resumee.



It is also an option to work under-paid at a workplace for some time and later go to UNI.
It is NOT mandatory to go straight to UNI.

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I think that your "college" in USA is different than in CANADA.


IMO, even if you are going to UNI, internships are very good.

Like CS internship is a thing that exists and almost everyone will accept that.


Unlike other jobs that are like more specialized like architect. Maybe you will be an assistant-drawing guy but nobody wants an architect intern who does not know completely his field of science.


CS internship is also a lot higher grades for UNI because you are super ahead of everyone who is not doing internships. And employers are usually very nice and cool.

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 02:09:20

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There is also VISUAL ART SCHOOL that will have programs specifically for GAME DESIGN.
It may have slightly different names but the idea is the same.

I don't there is GAME DESIGN programs in standard uni/schools.
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:09:01


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>implying anyone cares if I can correctly pronounce 6 million genders when I'm trying to setup a supply deal
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:13:07


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    [...] and yes I would strongly recommend turning down a school with lots of prestige/whatnot (e.g., Yale) to go to these:

    - Stanford
    - MIT
    - Berkeley
    - Carnegie Mellon
    - Cornell
    - Princeton
Don't worry Ben, you still have 4 more years to win a Nobel Prize to get into any of these schools.

They're all good CS programs, but you're probably better finding less prestigious colleges because a.) there is less intense competition and b.) your money will be sucked dry from any of those choices.
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:20:16

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Since we're shitting on unis here, who here has turned down a CS offer from MIT? Just curious...

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:22:38

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And people who say gender studies degree are useless are clearly following the stereotype. Yes they are, but I don't know any unis that offer a DEGREE in gender studies, it's usually a subject/major in a Bachelor of Arts degree, which indeed is generally useless, but there are some good majors you can pick too.
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:33:59

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I don't know but I am pretty sure that Texas Instruments (the guys making the scientific calculators) is affiliated with University of Texas. They have laboratories and stuff. And many previous students had Nobel prizes and stuff.

Wiki is right. :D


uTexas produces a lot of documents/resources. Don't know much about it.
(When googling some stuff, get lots of pdfs from utexas)
(Download google books and pdfs from the internet sometimes when bored).


It is one of the most prestigious UNIs.

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I am also not inebriated but writing at a late time.

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:36:52


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Since we're shitting on unis here, who here has turned down a CS offer from MIT? Just curious...

I don't think many people have, but if I ever applied and was accepted into an ivy league school, I don't even think I'd want to attend. It's just too much competition and doesn't seem like a fun way to spend your first 4 years in the 'real world.'
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:39:08

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Well, transgender will partially look like the other sex. Restrooms don't matter much.

In passports and official papers, it has become common place in some countries to have gender-neutral.
And maybe it was already there before Facebook got the idea of giving "Gender:Other" as an option.
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:44:51

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I don't think many people have, but if I ever applied and was accepted into an ivy league school, I don't even think I'd want to attend. It's just too much competition and doesn't seem like a fun way to spend your first 4 years in the 'real world.'


I never applied to any unis in the US, but if I got an offer for a decent course from one of the major Ivies or MIT, I'd take it in a heartbeat. The opportunities you get from studying there really set you up, at the very least, for your first job.

If you're going to pay for an education you might as well get one, if you want fun, you should just take out a loan and throw parties every day...

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:49:20

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Who has the money to go to UTexas ?
XD

Btw, in Canada, there is also a lot of R/D. I believe the biggest thing in "CS" in Canada is the BELL LABS. Lots of partnerships. Maybe bigger than US.

It was super big in ~1980s and still super big here.


Why not go to UTexas ? It is like the BELLS lab in Canada.

Oh, well. Just hypothetical.

















I would like some attention. :(


I don't know why you all mean to IVY Schools. BIG UNIS funded by GOV and BIG CORPS is the way to go if it is most prestigious.

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:51:16


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Who has the money to go to UTexas ?


If you're in-state and do well academically, it's basically free. And if it's too expensive still (assuming you did well academically, again), odds are A&M is right in that financial safety zone.

Texas and Cali get a really nice situation to work with when it comes to colleges- if you hustle enough through high school, your baseline is a flagship state university with significant research involvement but rather reasonable costs. It's a hard offer to beat and really narrows down the field of universities you have to apply to. Similar situations for the few other states with really solid state universities- Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia to some extent, etc. (although not all of these universities are all that well-rounded, so if they're not great at the fields you're actually passionate about, tough luck.)

Texas has it even nicer than the others, though, since state unis are legally obligated to accept the top x% (by class rank) of graduating high school students from their state. Plus the universities are loaded af (UT has a bigger endowment than Yale thanks to oil money) that they're solid on the financial front, too.

There's a lot to be said about being in a non-shit state for high school. Not all state universities are created equal.

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:52:18

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Did UTexas pay you to advertise? You've mentioned their uni 6 times already...
College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:58:09


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:P Nah, I mean, I ended up turning them down in the end (for college) lol. I don't recommend picking them over other options (depends on what you get on the table) but being a graduating high school student in Texas with reasonably solid academic performance puts you in a really good position.

I guess I'm advertising that sweet situation, not really the universities themselves.

Or since it's not something people can really control, just shitting on all the inferior states that don't invest in public higher ed.

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 03:59:24

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No, not you, Hostile...
College Talk: 3/30/2017 04:02:26


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Ah, yeah, can't figure that out myself.

Maybe it's because Hostile seems to be mostly interested in CS offshoots like game design and UT is a pretty obvious bang-for-your-buck program for CS. If you get in but go somewhere else, they tend to become your null hypothesis/grass-is-greener college- i.e., while walking to an exam I knew would be tough during freshman year, I remember thinking, "If I'd just taken UT-Austin, I could be getting so blazed right now instead of having to worry about topology."
College Talk: 3/30/2017 04:09:41

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I just looked for replies. :3

This is not the only UNI that I "hack" pdf files from or do readings.

With google hacking (search operators), it is even possible to get full courses notes custom-made by a teacher. :P

Well, you have sites with "open courses".

MIT and Coursera are one of the big sources of free courses and most "official/big/professional". It is still a good thing to check courses from other unis like pdf files.


Or just read through a pdf course document about quantum physics or something if you are really bored.

Sure there are textbooks you can buy and similar references, knowledge repositories. Not always have any particular goal in reading. Cyberwarfare or rocket science about the technology behind rovers in space...

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I am very "amateur". Not focusing on my particular of science.

I don't imagine myself having a lot of opportunities. Just wondering what all the folks "better than me" are all doing.

I am probably not the one that can afford to spend lots of money. I mean not particularly rich family or rich friends. :P

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I am not superb in CS and I am in hybrid program like Electronician & formal Computer CS. Something along those lines.

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I am also not inebriated when making some of those long posts like some people think. >:( :sadface:

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If I was ambitious and had the economic opportunity. Could maybe go for the BELLS Labs in Canada. hehehe

Just to measure myself against others. And as strategy of trying the highest first and scaling down if not work.

So doesn't end too far of my "potential". hehehe


Not really want to be super rich or anything. More like for social status (e.g.: "ACCOMPLISHED MAN" Victorian style as in HONEST WORK, SOCIAL STATUS, USEFUL CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY, POLITICALLY INVOLVED , MARRIAGE and SOCIAL CLASS = ACHIEVEMENTS -> meritocracy)

Oh, driving this thread off-topic. How much victorian values have UNIs or those that go to UNIS ?

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College Talk: 3/30/2017 04:30:58


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:P As they say, comparison is the killer of joy.
College Talk: 3/30/2017 04:42:10

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Well, imagining or dreaming about things can be a source of comfort.

If you can like create believable alternative scenarios for fun, it can be a relief sometimes.

Like there is some kind of degree of liberty of choice so it doesn't really matter if you ended where you are. Pretty much like the brownian motion. XD


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfactual_thinking


Something like that.

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I mean if you do a good work of introspection, it is possible to "correct" your life trajectory drastically.
College Talk: 3/31/2017 03:33:20


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Two comments:

1 - knyte poo-pooed Harvard's CS program, but a few years ago, Steve Ballmer gave them a lot of money to hire new profs., and so it would now be a great place to go for CS.

2 - if you are a very good student but worried about money, definitely apply to the famous private universities in addition to your state uni - yes, full tuition is too much for most people to pay, but they give many scholarships. You can even apply for a waiver for the application fee.

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