Ah, for some reason I thought he only meant the 1v1 ladder.
And I also did it with Luxis ;)

Wow, only the elitist skill members with availability to ladder? I see how it is......why not add a short list of roleplaying up-and-comers? (because roleplay players make up at least a third of warlight)

Because role-play is not a measurable form of talent, neither is it considered a significant part of competitive WarLight (which this thread is obviously all about).

So you consider roleplay insignificant and below the rest of warlight? It does take talent to roleplay, the actual game of warlight is strategy and math, simple. While serious roleplaying takes lots of thought and an imagination. And every game is different, which means hundreds of different scenarios to roleplay as. Roleplaying takes just as much work, if not more, than becoming good at strategy, and ultimately, the ladder all you seem to praise.

Roleplaying takes just as much work

Completely different work, none of which has to do with competitive (even team) games. RP is fun; but by its very definition it isn't serious. Neither it is as difficult to be good at it when compared to competitive games. I am a semi-decent player in the ladder (I like to think ;) ) but I can also role-play very very easily. The only difficult thing is finding time for it.

So you consider roleplay insignificant and below the rest of warlight?

I don't consider role-play insignificant - I consider it to totally irrelevant to this thread.

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This thread is about the generations of warlight. It should have at the LEAST a small list of roleplayers. I'm glad you can roleplay easily. That must be why you consider it not so difficult to do so. But when I say serious roleplay, I mean dedication, not breaking character, Writing paragraphs that are novel-worthy (Genghis Ron). There are entire clans dedicated to the art of roleplay, both serious and for fun. Roleplayers at least need a shoutout.

I can't beleive you guys would snub Billy Walsh like this.

i have played a lot of real role-playing games - and i don't mean cRPG which have nothing to do with true rpg.. i mean the classic rpgs or larps which involve serious skills... I also tried to play a few so called "role-playing" warlight matches.. But what i have seen was just a bunch of people who can't play very good, playing a game where only a small portion of players is role-playing. The rest just wanted to win it.. just like any other game.. but with it being easier since SOME of the opponents were more focussed on impersonating whatever role they had..

For me a role-playing game should not be considerred as a game to win or lose - it should be played more like a movie to be watched - you should be more interested in what will the next turn show than who will win in the end.. But i have seen no such game here. So for me now - warlight rp games are just a fancy name for yet another low-skill game.. somewhat half way between average semi-competitive games and lottery games.. arcade time killers - nothing more, nothing less..

I do however feel that if we were talking about warlight chronology per se - the rpg boom, and the lottery4points boom should be mentioned - they happenned somewhere shortly after the 3rd gen of competitive players arrived and most of which were still unknown to the community... (however it's not related to them ofc)

I agree that Role-playing is not competitive at all. It's not even the point of the game, there's no skill involved just discipline and maturity is needed. The only skill is fun, your skilled if you can make the games fun and enjoyable to play.

Apollo, I hope to change that a bit :D

the actual game of warlight is strategy and math, simple.

I don't mean to be crude, but judging from your stats there's nothing "simple" about it...understanding something isn't as hard as applying it practically, as you demonstrate so nicely for us.

(because roleplay players make up at least a third of warlight)

In the great words of Dead Piggy

citation fucking needed

Stats are not a good depiction of my skill. You want to see my skill, invite me to a fucking game. I've surrendered to a lot of friends, and people needing xp. Also, I wouldn't expect anyone except.maybe hauptman to understand about roleplaying games between clans. They're FAR different than the bull on open games. Fill the game with dedicated roleplayers, then you can see how competitive it is.

Haaaaiii!

I know RP games are competitive, especially when they're filled with dedicated players, but 1/3 of WarLight's players?

RP is an important aspect of WarLight, BUT! they're not very present on the forums AND! they tend to stick to their own communities, i.e. they seldom advertise games. There aren't many skilled players that are actively pursuing RP games or at least it's not well known (maybe I'm just living under a rock). The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Miyagi, General Mac and Apollo.

On that note, why not just make your own list for RP players and have it added here??

Someone make a generation list for trolls, the forums have been rather lively again and I think some players deserve honorable mentions :D

Edited 1/15/2014 23:14:05

I was considering it. And a third is a rough estimate, but definitely big enough to be note-worthy. Only reason we rarely comment is because there's usually no roleplay threads. So we stick to clan forums and game chat.

And I also did it with Luxis ;)

Did you now?

I'm speaking up, because I believe that roleplay has become a larger part than most of you think. Plus, I'm tired of hearing from ladder elitists.

" But what i have seen was just a bunch of people who can't play very good, playing a game where only a small portion of players is role-playing. The rest just wanted to win it.. just like any other game.."

Truest statement about warlight role play ever.

Edited 1/15/2014 23:27:26

As someone who was in {rp} for a long time, I would say the majority of roleplaying games are garbage which was why {rp} had trouble recruiting for a long time. Also most 'roleplaying' games aren't even close to the 'dimoplacy' played regularly in the open games. They're much more intuitive and I remember making a template for {rp} took me 3 days, but was perhaps one of the most enjoyable games I had. I get that you're proud of your niche, but not even mentioning General Mac, Discord, or Hammer when talking about roleplaying.. when they've made half of the templates you play on and stole, then modified to make what is now the 'norm' roleplaying game played is disrespectful.

-_- of course, coming from illumina......I mean, UN

All of {CORP}'s games are completely original ideas from great minds like M.A.N

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AND, Rp is so closed off from the roleplay community. Its impossible to tell what's going on. UN is just filled with drama. Haven't heard anything from Mongols.