I think trophies are more significant to the people who don't have them. Once you have a few of them it's easy to say that they don't mean much.

That being said, those who truly know which players really are good certainly don't pay any attention to them when they talk about which players are among the best.

@andy: numberOfTitleDefenses is less vulnerable to manipulation. This is because the more games a #1 stalls, the less title defenses they can take. (assuming that there is a max number of games like the current system).

Let's say somebody takes #1 (because the prior champ lost points) and is currently stalling and losing 5/5 games. They have zero title defenses until they lose one of those games. If the loss kicks them out of #1, then they had zero title defenses for the entire time they held #1.

Edited 2/24/2017 01:03:03

Speaking of gold trophies, a WL legend returned today.

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=825455939

Rubik87 won seasons 1 and 3. Only one other player (timon92) has won 2 ladder seasons.

Edited 2/24/2017 03:48:51

inb4 more oldguard worship

Don't worry, Pulsey, nobody wants to worship you.

I agree that this "stat" doesn't count for much, I was just curious if anyone had held more than three.

The #1 spots are definitely not equal value. Seasonal is way harder than the others probably, only 26 winners so far (by 24 different players I think).

Number of title defenses would be a great stat to have shown though.

Certainly Beren, I certainly hope I wouldn't be plagued by the fanboy culture on this site.

Besides, I thought you had to be #1 on the ladder to be in apex! They sure have fallen a long way since the old guard times!

Or have they recognised that after 6 years of playing the game and still failing to reach #1, they let you in as a consolation prize?

Either way - no worship!

Edited 2/25/2017 07:50:54

Beren was a #1 on two ladders though, did I miss something?

Pulsey i think beren got more deserved trophies than you do. I think you're not in the position to attack anyone because of trophies.

Respectful recognition of excellence is not worship. It can be argued that anyone who's achieved a #1 ladder rank on WL has demonstrated a degree of excellence.

This group, including the present company of Pulsey, Beren, mod, andy903 and motd, have my respect--not worship--for that.

But in terms of measuring excellence at that level, numberOfTitleDefenses seems like a good metric. It can be used to measure the duration of a single run at #1 and across all such runs for a given champ.

Who has more lifetime title defenses for their 2v2 trophy, Beren or Pulsey?:)

Edited 2/25/2017 19:00:06

With that in mind I better leave before the thread descends into another circlejerk.

Pulsey has no title defenses, he just stalled his losses to get the first rank.

I'm curious how many folks would have gold trophies if they were given for being ranked #1 for 7 consecutive days(insert any larger number here really).

yea that would be pretty brutal

I only held #1 for three days soooo

a lot of people would lose their trophies lol

Pulsey has no title defenses, he just stalled his losses to get the first rank.

Your whining is music to my ears! :)

If that is what happened, it is not whining, then it is just stating the facts. But given that you apparently fell like you are being attacked,by someone saying what happened then you must also feel like you did something wrong. Otherwise your reply don't really make a lot of sense(if it actually happened that is, but i guess it did, since you otherwise would point out that what rouxburg was saying was false).

You can easily see it here:
https://www.warlight.net/LadderGames?ID=0&LadderTeamID=4955
Notice the string of losses on May 9th?
The game IDs also clearly show that several of the losses were from older games than his wins from early May.

Meanwhile, coincidentially, on this page, you can see he has been ranked until May 8.
https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=4955

If that isn't enough proof, you might want to check out some of these losses and especially the income differences and Pulsey's play speed in them. Few people ever stalled as blatantly as Pulsey did. But hey, he got his trophy, so I'm sure his mommy is proud of him now.

Note one of those "losses" after he ends his run: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6217891

A thrown win to help The Great Pulsius's run.

Never said I didn't stall, and I'm happily proud of my #1.

And, unlike Math Fox, I don't write paragraphs on my profile telling everyone how good a player I am and listing my fake achievements on an online game. Do you do that because your mommy isn't proud of you in RL?

:0

I love this thread!

how can you be proud of something, when you think that someone just saying what happend is whining? it does not make any sense

Edited 2/28/2017 15:48:56