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What to do with Benelux.: 12/6/2011 20:40:25


Moros 
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@Domenico
It doesn't matter of your map, I was just worried if the Black Pete's took you to Spain :)

@Typhoon
I'm not in the testing phase yet, due to the large amount of images I use to trace the coastlines, it's way too big to upload. After I've drawn all of the territories, I can remove them and start adding connections...
What to do with Benelux.: 12/6/2011 20:46:03


Oliebol 
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I want to congratulate you all with the birthday of Sinterklaas today.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/6/2011 21:03:47


Moros 
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Okay, I've found a list of all airports in the Benelux, now just all large ports. I'll only connect the largest ports to the Caribbean Netherlands, Antwerp and Rotterdam, but what about the small ones?

Edit: I found the ports too, It's funny that Luxembourg only has one port, a very small one. And one airport, in the city of Luxembourg itself.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/6/2011 23:12:51


Typhoon 
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Maybe connect the small ports ahead a port or two to the next one, and maybe do the same with the airports too? It would be just way too chaotic if all the ports connected to each other, and same with the airports.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/7/2011 14:38:47


Moros 
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Yup, I thought of that already.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/7/2011 14:49:45

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Thanks Oliebol, only a few weeks to new year :)

I would like to join the testing of the maps, when you two are ready.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/10/2011 14:32:43


Moros 
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AAAAAARG!!!
I switched the height and the width of the maximum map size! Now it's 3299 pixels high and 2306 wide, but the limits are 2400 high and 3330 wide! I'm afraid I'll have to tilt it now, since it'll become almost impossible to play it if I make it smaller...
What to do with Benelux.: 12/10/2011 15:00:39


Domenico
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Then you should tilt it so that east is up and include a compass.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/10/2011 15:35:35


Moros 
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Why east up? I was thinking of west up, so up is sea and down is Europe.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/16/2011 20:43:04


Typhoon 
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Any news of when you plan to release this map?
What to do with Benelux.: 12/16/2011 21:50:34


Moros 
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No, I'm still working on making all those territories... Because of school I haven't had much time last 2 weeks, but in one week I'll have vacation for two weeks, I'm trying to keep my promise of 1st of January, but please don't be mad if it'll come out a little later :)
For so far I'm done with about 260 territories, but a lot of them are coastal territories, so it takes more time to make those than normal ones.
I can show another pic, this is how I make airports and ports visible:
![](http://i41.tinypic.com/f0xlx4.png)
Ignore the weird background colors, and the one who first guess which part I'm showing gets a cookie :)
What to do with Benelux.: 12/16/2011 21:51:07


Moros 
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guessES (typo)
What to do with Benelux.: 12/16/2011 23:45:14

RvW 
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What weird background colour? It's orange! :)

Looks very nice and clean (quite a difference with "Europe Realistic" for instance). Is it intentional for the airport to be "hollow" though? Or is that going to be invisible once you remove the background (standard WL background is black anyway...)? I think it's a great idea to mark the "wormhole" territories like this, it will be much clearer than drawing connection lines all over the place.

Okay, my real reason to post: I wanna cookie! :) So let's see. That thick line cannot possible be a country border (there are no three-country points within the Benelux), so it must be "just" a province border or something (I'm guessing it's a bonus border in-game, right?).

If West is up (like you said you were planning) than I've got no idea what part of the Benelux this could possibly be; the only part of the Benelux with a significant body of water to the East of it is North Holland, but it can't be Enkhuizen (there's no airport around there which I know of) and it can't be Amsterdam (each territory is a municipality, so if it was Amsterdam, it should be much bigger than the surrounding territories).

With North being up, it could be the IJsselmeer coast of Friesland, but all other details don't match up...

East can't be up either; the North Sea coast is a lot smoother than that.

I'm guessing that part below the harbour isn't sea at all, it's territories which you haven't drawn yet; that harbour isn't on the sea, it's on one of the major rivers. Without knowing which cardinal direction corresponds with "up", and without a clue which territories are still missing (and what parts really are sea), I have no idea how to put a location on this part of the map... :(
(Let's visit some ad-servers, they give out cookies for free! ;) )
What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 00:07:13

RvW 
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ps. Don't forget about Matma Rex's connection editor: http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=2452 this might be a nice test-run for it.
What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 00:14:40


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Wow, nice map so far!

I do wonder however, how you'll make the baarle-nassau/baarle-hertog border.
That part of the map is quite complicated :P
What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 01:17:29


Typhoon 
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Looks great :D, thanks again for making such an awesome map Moros!
What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 11:06:36


Moros 
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Okay, the first hint for the map picture is: the shown port is indeed a river port, and west is up.
And yes, I'm making the airport signs hollow, but I'll make a non-territory object below it to have a standard color. Any ideas for the color?

@Ognian
For most complicated parts, e.g. the port of Rotterdam, the TINY communes in Brussels, the map I'm using as a base isn't detailed enough, so I get a new smaller map from the internet, make it semi-transparent, re-scale and turn and twist it so it fits with the base borders and than draw over that one. I'll do the same with Baarle-Nassau.

@RvW's second post
I would do that, but I have no idea how the API editor works :(
All I get when I click the link on the wiki I get this:
This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.
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<root>
<termsOfUse>
Please use this API responsibly, as it can consume significant amounts of server resources if called excessively.
</termsOfUse>
<error>Root element is missing.</error>
</root>

And no buttons or similar things I can click to enter the map ID. Any beginners-tutorial is very welcome!
What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 13:02:00


Domenico
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Right, as for the map fragment, I found a border shape that looked like the thick lines in your picture: the border between the Luxembourg regions of Wiltz, Redange, and Diekrich, but I'm not sure if there's a harbour or an airport there.
I am sure it can't be Rotterdam, the municipality of Rotterdam is far bigger than its surroundings.
So yeah, I'm going to guess it's a part of Luxembourg.
And again, it looks great. Looking forward to this epic map... :)
What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 14:25:19


Moros 
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What to do with Benelux.: 12/17/2011 14:31:46


Moros 
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oh, btw, Ognian inspired me to do the Baarle's, but as you can see it didn't turn out as pretty as I wanted, on the right you see the Biesbosch, and the blob on the left is Baarle-Hertog/Nassau:
![](http://i43.tinypic.com/a48wec.png)
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